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Fallout 3 Reference

In Crucible there is a store called 'Things Found', the shopkeeper here thinks the world will end... This could be a reference to Fallout 3, a game also by Bethesda which is set in post-apocalypse america... 82.42.40.119 15:09, 2 September 2010 (UTC)

Fallout 3 came out 1.5 years after Shivering Isles, so no, it probably wouldn't be a reference. Even if it were a reference to a forthcoming game, we'd need a stronger tie than just the world ending to mention it as a reference. – Robin Hood↝talk 17:13, 2 September 2010 (UTC)

It seems more plausible that she's talking about the coming Greymarch and not anything to do with another game. Arthmoor 19:33, 2 September 2010 (UTC)

Ah yes sorry, just a thought :) Lord of Shuddering Isles XD 18:38, 7 September 2010 (UTC)

Vendor chest in the wastrels purse.

In Passwall in the Wastrels Purse there is a hidden chest that can be accessed by jumping through the ceiling at the top of the stairs. Jump up into the roof trusses and you will get outside the building into a creepy empty black space. Fall down to the floor sticking out from the wall behind Dredhwen then, facing her, fall off the floor and start moving toward her you will see a chest floating in mid air. You have to access it while falling so it is difficult, you will respawn in the room. It doesn't have anything crazy in it and was probably intended to be in the room behind Dredhwen. Have fun deleting this off the main page for whatever reason as it is probably the only actual Easter Egg on the page as there only seems to be half baked references to pop culture. Except for the one about nightwish that is. — Unsigned comment by 207.216.159.49 (talk) on 3 September 2010

That's not an easter egg. Almost every shop in the game has at least one such chest. It's where the vendor stores his or her goods and is located under the main store so you can't steal everything without glitches or the console. rpeh •T•C•E• 17:16, 3 September 2010 (UTC)

then nightwish remains the only true easter egg of the isles..thats interesting though didnt know that. is this the only one that can be accessed 'conventionally' that you know of? — Unsigned comment by 207.216.159.49 (talk) on 3 September 2010

I agree with you that most of the "easter eggs" we list are rubbish, but people get very upset if they're deleted.

On the subject of vendor chests, we get the occasional post saying that people managed to glitch through a wall and saw a chest, but glitches vary with length of game, mods, platform and goodness knows what else so they aren't listed. If you're on a PC, use the Console command tcl and you can go through the floor to see the vendor chests in every store. rpeh •T•C•E• 21:35, 3 September 2010 (UTC)

Once again, are there any other vendor chests that are accessible in the game or is this the only one? I don't care about it being listed as an "Easter Egg". I just consider acquiring it's contents to be a novel challenge because it is so difficult and thought it should be documented somewhere here. Please respond to this as opposed to taking it down, again, as this is the discussion page after all.Datacaust 23:50, 14 December 2010 (UTC)

"You wouldn't like me when I'm bored"

"You wouldn't like me when I'm bored" may also be a reference to Battlestar Galactica when number 6 says "You wouldn't like me when I'm angry Gaius"208.107.41.91 16:12, 24 June 2011 (UTC)

Which was coined in "The Incredible Hulk" comics or the movies. Its basically Bruce banner's little catchphrase, trust me.--Clan Orion 03:24, 30 July 2011 (UTC)

Reference to Icarus?

On one of the rooftops in Crucible, I found a potion of feather, a lot of quills (which look like feathers) and some bones in a pile. Reference to Icarus anyone? Kitkat1749 ^{•Talk•Contrib•E-mail} 10:32, 28 August 2011 (UTC)

theres another egg in cruicible hidden in a broken crate under the water is a locked carafe and i dont think it can be opened

That's the sunken urn. Check out <a>www.uesp.net/wiki/Shivering:The_Paranoid_Roof_Watcher</a> to find out how to unlock it.

Sheogorath 217.212.231.128 00:13, 7 June 2013 (GMT)

tiberium

im not sure if this is a refrence or just my over active imagionation but the hollowed stumps in some of the dungions the ones with the green blobs on that spurt out green gass every few secounds sort of look simmular to the mutated tiberium trees from command&conqure ...for that matter madness ore grows out of the ground simmular to tiberium..The sorrow 13:44, 12 September 2011 (UTC)

Potion of Feathers

On the roof of Birthaur's house there is a large pile of "Feathers" (quills) and in the center there is a "Potion of Feather". — Unsigned comment by TG484 (talk • contribs) at 05:42 on 12 December 2011 (GMT)

This isn't an Easter Egg, really, just an amusing tidbit that they added to the game. If you look in the archive, you'll see there have been a few discussions about it already: Another Questionable Egg, Bird Crash, and Bird Potion. It's also mentioned on The Paranoid Roof Watcher, though only as a reference to there being various things to be found on the rooftops, including potions. – Robin Hood↝talk 01:31, 5 January 2012 (UTC)

Definition of an Easter Egg

The notice at the top of Egg pages, when added, says

This page is for Easter Eggs only. Easter Eggs include inside jokes, pop culture references, and any similar reference to something outside the Elder Scrolls games. For other points of interest, like unfinished quests, or references to other games in the Elder Scrolls series, please see the appropriate pages.

Should we have a page for historical references, like the base game namespaces have (MW, OB, SR)? Or should we leave them on this page? Vely^{►Talk►Email} 14:51, 13 May 2012 (UTC)

Once upon a time, I had considered splitting this to match Oblivion's splitting, but ended up taking a protracted wikibreak before I got to it. My one concern with splitting it, though, is that it might make for some very short pages. Apart from that, I'm all for it. – Robin Hood↝talk 15:06, 13 May 2012 (UTC)

Better late than never? Done. Silence is Golden^{Break the Silence} 02:45, 21 March 2013 (GMT)

Wow, yeah, just a tad late. I'd forgotten all about this. Thanks, Silencer! – Robin Hood  ^(talk) 02:52, 21 March 2013 (GMT)

O.J. Simpson reference?

Could Orinthal in Bliss be a reference to O.J. Simpson? They have the same (spelled slightly different) first name, he's a Redguard and he claims to be a "retired assassin". >.> 71.99.225.161 23:41, 3 August 2012 (UTC)johnnypebs

Interesting note, but I think this is more a coincidence than anything else. If OJ had been frequently known to be obsessed with random trivia or played on a team with a green jersey, it might be different, but this is at most an interesting coincidence. That said, this is at least a more plausible proposition than most of the ones we get on the Skyrim page. ThuumofReason 00:50, 4 August 2012 (UTC)

Resurrecting this proposal on foot of this discussion. Are there any objections or suggestions on how to word a note for this page? —⁠Legoless (talk) 15:21, 16 September 2021 (UTC)

I agree that it is a reference to OJ Simpson. I propose it is worded like this: "Orithel is likely a reference to the former NFL player Orenthal James Simpson, who was acquitted of his act of murdering his ex-wife Nicole Brown Simpson, and her friend Ronald "Ron" Goldman. I originally thought it could be a reference to the book If I Did It, which details how O.J Simpson would have hypothetically killed his wife and her friend if he did it, though the expansion predates the book so this is unlikely."Zebendal (talk) 17:25, 16 September 2021 (UTC)

OJ did have a vested interest in stats as a professional athlete. I heard he was called The Stat Man for chasing unique athletic stats, also his comment about his arms being different lengths and this possibly being "important in the future" could be a reference to how a part of O is defence was about "a glove that didn't fit." This video for reference: https://youtu.be/pyIoy49v4hw — Unsigned comment by 172.58.61.255 (talk) at 08:45 on 13 January 2022 (UTC)

Clara Haskil inspiration

Discussion moved from Shivering_talk:Haskill#Clara Haskil inspiration

en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Clara_Haskil

The first scene with Haskil gave this away for me, albeit the connection is "long". Clara Haskil was a jewish-romanian pianist who was famous for interpreting Mozart and Schumann. About Schumann we know he wasn't exactly...sane. Nor was Mozart your average sane person. And should I add the fact that one of Schumann's most famous works is op 2 Papillons(french for butterflies)? — Unsigned comment by 86.121.64.100 (talk) at 12:59 on 31 May 2013

Yet Another LoTR reference

A Dark Seducer warrior in SI quest 'Flame of Agnon' quotes the Witch King of Angmar, saying "Don't stay between the Mazken and their prey". :-) — Unsigned comment by 5.149.147.90 (talk) at 22:48 on 16 July 2014

Is this a direct quote? The connection seems a bit vague to me. Zul se onikaan^{Laan tinvaak} 12:29, 17 July 2014 (GMT)

Quote by Grakedig is 'Begone, mortal, or you will soon find yourself between the Mazken and their prey. A most dangerous place to be.' The LOTR quote is 'Do not come between a Nazgûl and his prey.' Doesn't seem close enough, considering the widespread use of the 'do not come between a...' phrase. Silence is Golden^{Break the Silence} 18:03, 17 July 2014 (GMT)

Cold War

The Shivering Isles contains an aspect of the time of the Cold War, where there was a lot of paranoia in the air. Syl is paranoid, and the Dark Seducers and Golden Saints are rivals. The Cold War was between the West and the Soviet East, and the Shivering Isles is divided into two parts - Mania and Dementia - and one has Golden Saints and the other has Dark Seducers. --Dragon Guard (talk) 22:10, 22 June 2016 (UTC)

I don't see any connection. —Legoless (talk) 03:07, 23 June 2016 (UTC)

Nor do I. Zul do onikaan^{Laan tinvaak} 12:05, 23 June 2016 (UTC)

I think I can see what you are thinking, DG, but no. There is way more likely this particular dualism thinking of happy madness versus depressing madness is taken from the ideas in parts of pop psychology of mid and later 20th Century. —MortenOSlash (talk) 17:23, 23 June 2016 (UTC)

It's the conflict between different people in the expansion. At the start, the player hasn't become involved much; therefore, the number of deaths is not high. And I think that as it goes on, people get more and more hostile and make it clear that they are no longer allies. The war between people makes some paranoid, such as Syl. But what is also similar is during the beginning of the questline. When you start out, it is kind of the feeling between the end of World War Two and the start of the Cold War: you kill the Gatekeeper and do some quests for Sheogorath that are not very 'action-packed'. This isn't for long, though. Suddenly, Sheogorath wants you to replace Syl or Thadon, and that is the feeling of the 'start of the Cold War'. Once you have done what he wants, Sheogorath is a sort of commanding officer: you are sent to get really involved in the fighting, or the 'action-packed' part, where the Order wants to take over the Isles. --Dragon Guard (talk) 22:51, 23 June 2016 (UTC)

Then again, after reading your explanation here, I realise that I do not see what you are thinking, because that was not at all the thoughts I believed I could see. —MortenOSlash (talk) 04:58, 24 June 2016 (UTC)

Overlook Road

The Overlook Road running through Mania reminds me of the hotel where Jack Torrance goes completely bananas in Stephen King's The Shining.

Steve Irwin Easter Egg

The Shivering Bestiary contains an Easter Egg referencing Steve Irwin in its opening:

For my good friend and colleague Venristwie, who protected the creatures of all the Realms.

"Venristwie" is an anagram of "Steve Irwin". Steve Irwin was famous for his work with animals, and his conservation efforts. --AKB ^{Talk Cont Mail} 19:20, 15 October 2022 (UTC)

Support. —⁠Legoless (talk) 17:33, 16 October 2022 (UTC)