Dialogue in MWOP
I've been meaning to say this for a while, but I always forget. You don't need to put the underline under the words. That's a product of the dialogue system in the game, not part of the formatting in the text. If you wish, you could use internal page links to link the underlined word to the proper dialogue line on the page, but I'm not sure that's needed for any but the most verbose quest NPCs. Other than that, the underline doesn't really need to be in the text here unless it is actually present in the data, which I don't think I've ever come across in MW. Jeancey (talk) 16:31, 25 August 2016 (UTC)
- I think I remember seeing dialogue underlined somewhere a long time ago and going off that. That's how the whole thing started. I do see your point about it not being necessary to put underlining in; the blue text representing topics is not always consistent; the ones on one page may not be how it is in your game. Although I don't remember exactly how it all started (I'm in no rush to go through all my edits to find clues as to how), last year during October, Forfeit added underlining to dialogue which didn't show up as blue text in my game. So maybe he was going off how I was doing it, I'm not sure. I think we should just turn the underlined dialogue into "vanilla" text. Can we in one fell swoop get rid of all underlined text?
•D. G.|Talk|Work• 17:00, 25 August 2016 (UTC)
- The bot has no way to detect which pages have underlining and which don't, but if this is something I would only ever find on Morrowind NPC pages, I can have it load all those and go through each of them. – Robin Hood (talk) 17:13, 25 August 2016 (UTC)
- The bot job to do that was insanely simple, and is now ready to go, as long as you guys are sure you just want the underlining removed and nothing more. Be warned, though, it's a simple search & replace on the entire page, so it'll remove every occurrence of
</u> from all pages in Category:Morrowind-NPCs. We almost never use underlining for anything on UESP, so I don't see this as a problem, but just thought I should mention it in case there's underlining somewhere on those pages that should actually be retained. – Robin Hood (talk) 18:49, 25 August 2016 (UTC)
- Yeah, it should be fine. I can't think of any time we would underline things. Jeancey (talk) 19:04, 25 August 2016 (UTC)
- Done. Only 162 edits, though, if I counted right. The bot really needs a job of somewhere around 2000 edits. :Þ – Robin Hood (talk) 19:49, 25 August 2016 (UTC)
- Oh no! I completely forgot about the Bloodmoon and Tribunal namespaces!
•D. G.|Talk|Work• 20:17, 25 August 2016 (UTC)
- As did I. Not a big deal; it's very easy to just re-run for those two namespaces. Thanks for pointing it out. – Robin Hood (talk) 00:42, 26 August 2016 (UTC)
- I checked directly against the database for any pages that still have underlining on them, and it turns out we all missed the Creatures category, though there are only about 20 or so pages that are affected there. The bot just finished those ones, leaving us a whole 29 pages across the entire wiki that use underlining somewhere. – Robin Hood (talk) 01:00, 26 August 2016 (UTC)
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- I just want to say that I just got ESO; I'm trying to balance gameplay and levelling up etc. with updating Online pages in the form of adding some content. Currently I'm just travelling around, doing whatever quests I can and improving skills, especially two-handed. Looking forward to improving the Online namespace; it's much easier now I've got the game, which I enjoy despite the hideous design of Windhelm and its bridge, in addition to the continually respawning enemies. •D. G.|Talk|Work• 20:22, 3 December 2016 (UTC)
Addiction to levelling and having a more powerful character has taken over, so I've not been contributing as much as I'd like to have been recently. I think I'll use this character for getting really powerful and having high stats, then when I get round to doing so, I'll create another for getting dialogue and things from quests I've already completed. •D. G.|Talk|Work• 17:38, 22 December 2016 (UTC)
God knows how many I've abandoned due to the difficult enemies, (like the Grand Sermonizer in an early quest for the Dark Brotherhood—I couldn't come close to defeating her, so I abandoned the quest). Maybe I'm just focusing too much on two-handed (it's on the brink of becoming 51 now, my current character level is 36, and I've spent all attribute points on health so far), or maybe you're supposed to team up with others to defeat these enemies. Maybe I've just not been making the most of things in the game though. (e.g., not using much/using crap armor). I could wait until I'm level 100+, but I've got a feeling that either I need to work with others to defeat the Sermonizer, or I've made the massive mistake of putting tons of skills points into two-handed. Advice? •D. G.|Talk|Work• 17:38, 22 December 2016 (UTC)
- Using gear sets can help immensely. If you find you have difficulties keeping your health bar, you might want to use food. The advice I offer is probably insufficient, so you might want to consider joining the UESP Guild where you'll have access to players who are much more experienced and competent than me. - KINMUNE ﴾TALK﴿ 00:42, 23 December 2016 (UTC)
- The Grand Sermonizer is a tough fight if you're low-level, I remember a lot of people had difficulty with it. Try going back to your starting Alliance and work on easier quests. I'd also recommend putting your attribute points into either magicka or stamina entirely; health builds are viable if you want to be a tank, but that's probably not what you're looking for. —Legoless (talk) 01:13, 23 December 2016 (UTC)
- Yeah, but unfortunately that might mean my character getting killed a bit faster. :( Unless I can make use of the additional magicka/stamina and use a stun spell on these enemies—one that functions like the one guards use on you when you flee—is there a spell/any spells like that that are available to the player (that being said, I've got a feeling they won't work on certain "tough" enemies, like the Sermonizer)? Anyway, I am where I am now with my character, and while I may have put too many points into health, it's not too bad, I guess. So I'll start putting points into stamina for now, then when I'm level 65-70, I'll level up magicka (to tell the truth, I have never used it beyond the basic soul trap spell). •D. G.|Talk|Work• 09:11, 23 December 2016 (UTC)
- You won't actually be able to allocate any more attribute points past level 50. ESO tends to have characters focused on one of the three attributes, rather than spread around like other installments. Once you get to level 50, leveling will instead happen through the Champion system. You are right about being unable to root her. If an enemy has pips around their health bar, you can't use crowd control effects on them. You mention armor—on your character page, you should see some stars in the top-right corner (not sure if this appears on console), which are your gear bonus. Your gear bonus is increased by wearing armor similar to your level, in the same set, of the same type (light, medium, heavy) etc. Something that you might not have noticed is that each type of armor corresponds to an attribute—heavy armor for health, medium armor for stamina, and light armor for magicka. Since you seem to be playing stamina, you should probably use medium armor. Since you're not at max level, you'll probably outlevel your gear too fast for crafting, so you might want to try wearing medium armor Overland Sets.- KINMUNE ﴾TALK﴿ 09:39, 23 December 2016 (UTC)
(←) I'd suggest looking at the Tamriel Foundry class theorycrafting, you can just pick a suitable dps build from there, and try to match what they suggest with what you have. There are many builds for different setups and weapons, so just pick something you feel is interesting for you. As a heads up... any points into health are a waste of attributes. Damage > health. And if you are tank, mitigation > health. I don't recommend a tanking build for levelling unless you plan to do dungeons as a tank. Tib (talk) 12:46, 23 December 2016 (UTC)
- Just saw this, Merry Christmas as well :). What class are you? If you're a Dragonknight, Corrosive Armor can be very useful for bosses. Since you use Stamina, get Vigor so you can easily heal yourself as well. As a stamina Dragonknight I had difficulty sustaining my health until I got that. Also, using Dual Wield and Medium Armor (with the passives) should increase your damage a lot, and therefore end fights more quickly. Also be sure that you're making use of interrupting, breaking free, and blocking attacks as needed. You'd be surprised at how many attacks you can interrupt, like channeled spells and such. Hope that helps. --Aquilia (talk) 16:36, 25 December 2016 (UTC)
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Hi, I noticed you re-formatted the dialogue on some NPC pages like Jeeba-Noo to a format I personally find less legible. I would prefer to have all the pages formatted similarly, though, so do you happen to know if there was a consensus format for this case (like a discussion I might have missed)? Cheers, Cailin (talk) 21:26, 25 November 2017 (UTC)
- Only this as far as I am aware. •D. G.|Talk|Work• 23:14, 25 November 2017 (UTC)