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Edit Summaries[edit]

I wanted to let you know that edit summaries like this one are not appropriate. I understand you were just trying to justify your edit, but that kind of language is offensive and shouldn't be used here. Please make an effort to avoid comments like that in the future. Thanks! eshetalk 13:15, 10 November 2012 (GMT)

Yes, of course. I just didn't feel like working up another suitable allegory and it is quite applicable. I'll put forth more effort in the future.Vainamoinen-Talk-Stuff 22:48, 13 November 2012 (GMT)

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Image Quality[edit]

Hi Sulhir. Your re-upload of SR-npc-Lynoit.jpg doesn't meet our image standards due to the low resolution of the NPC (or alternatively the camera distance and the ash piles surrounding him). The previous version, while incorrect, is of much higher quality. I've reverted accordingly. —Legoless (talk) 23:54, 17 September 2015 (UTC)

Yeah, I figured that out with the comments and the revertings. I'm just clever like that.Vainamoinen -Talk -Stuff 23:57, 17 September 2015 (UTC)
(edit conflict) Edit: Disregard, your new version has addressed those issues. —Legoless (talk) 23:58, 17 September 2015 (UTC)

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Signature (2)[edit]

Hi Sulhir/Vainamoinen! I notice that your signature doesn't match your username. While there's a fair bit of flexibility here, the general guideline is that your signature should more or less identify you. Obviously, Vainamoinen and Sulhir don't exactly fit that description. :) Shortening is fine, using alternate alphabets like Dragon Font or even Dragon-language translations are fine (at least around UESP)...anything along those lines. If you'd like, I can also permanently change your username to Vainamoinen, in which case your login name would change, and all your user pages would be moved over to the new name. If you do want to do that, just let me know. The only thing I would ask if you do that is to log out until the request is completed, just to be on the safe side. Robin Hood  (talk) 21:17, 24 July 2016 (UTC)

Any way to change my user login? When I first made my account on here I didn't realize that was also going to be my username.Vainamoinen -Talk -Stuff 21:23, 24 July 2016 (UTC)
I actually would prefer Vain.3805 for a login if it's up for grabs.Vainamoinen -Talk -Stuff 21:25, 24 July 2016 (UTC)
Yup, that's fine. I'll assume you've logged out and go ahead and change it. If you're reading this and you haven't logged out, just don't make any changes! You'll probably need to log out once I'm done in any event, though. Robin Hood  (talk) 21:37, 24 July 2016 (UTC)
Okay, you should be good to go now. Your signature page has also been moved, but I think you'll need to edit your preferences to point to the new page. Robin Hood  (talk) 21:39, 24 July 2016 (UTC)
Would you still like me to change my signature or is it close enough now?Vainamoinen -Talk -Stuff 21:40, 24 July 2016 (UTC)
I think it's fine now. Given the smaller user base here, it's not as big of a deal as in Wikipedia. As long as they're vaguely similar and you can't be confused with anyone else, I'd say it's good enough. Robin Hood  (talk) 21:41, 24 July 2016 (UTC)


Stop hand.png Comments like this could be construed as a personal attack, which is grounds for an immediate block. Using snarky and abusive language towards other editors is inappropriate behaviour and disruptive to the site. —Legoless (talk) 23:23, 25 July 2016 (UTC)

Full disclosure, I wasn't being snarky or abusive. Silence is Golden seemed genuinely unhappy and often seems self conscious and I thought my karma experience today would make him feel better.Vainamoinen -Talk -Stuff 23:24, 25 July 2016 (UTC)

Though now that I take the time to really think about it I think this may define the root of all my hostile user interactions on this particular wiki... Just for a nice philosophical moment here, if anyone else can feel it comin'.
Think of yourself. You are you. Nothing anyone else says, thinks, believes, or asserts can change a definition of self for any individual. Then there is everyone else and how they perceive the proverbial you. Now, if a society were perfectly adjusted, complainers and trolls could live happily and accommodatingly side by side with peacekeepers and diplomats. The two aspects of society that conflict most often on the internet would be able to coexist knowing that their sense of self is the only truth and it is not compromised by anyone else's opinion. Trolls would troll and diplomats would help and both would be content knowing that both snark levels and the pursuit of accuracy had been obtained. I might rewrite a creation myth about this.
Then there is reality. If someone describes you in a way other than your perceived sense of self, that sense is offended. That your inner workings are a mystery to others and that this is a surprise is solipsistic at best, a philosophy that cannot technically exist by its own definition. This then breeds cognitive dissonance as any individual understands from toddlerhood that mom really can't understand a thing you're saying with your mouth full of cheerios. So to clarify, on one hand you know you will be misunderstood often in life but on the other it is offensive to your sense of self when it inevitably occurs.
Now think of the other guy. Who are they. Short of tying them up and dangling them over the edge of volcano the only information you have defining the other guy is based on actions and interactions you observe from your slanted little point of view. You define them based solely on your own solipsistic point of view and, knowing just as they do that they/you will be misunderstood more often than not in this life, offense is still taken and breeds your own layer of cognitive dissonance.
Notice that. Taken not given. Offense is a choice and as forgiveness cannot be taken neither can offense be given without consent. Forgiveness is given by choice and done so by force can no longer be defined as forgiveness. Offense is taken and done so by force is just an excuse for the small minded. Feel free to establish your own rape allegory here but it won't apply. Aside from agreeing to be offended we go back again to the sense of self. It's almost easier to explain over the anonymity of the cyber world. With the anonymity also comes the lack of proof of existence. This lack of proof begs the question, if it is not real what does it matter what I say to it or what it says to me. Now, this is most often perceived as only half of that question. It does not matter what I do to it. But it is far more important that it does not matter what it does to me. Because it cannot be proven to be real. Short of threats of physical harm, done in jest or in earnest, the internet should not theoretically be able to have any effect on the world outside of it because at face value none of what happens on the internet can be proven to be real. It is all just a complex Matrix, populated by bots with varying degrees of intelligence and finesse. I identify myself as a well programmed bot and who can contradict me? I identify you as a well programmed bot and how can it be contradicted?
Solipsism is perhaps my favorite philosophy because everyone ascribes to it, its not actually possible to be purely solipsistic, and it inevitably causes neurotic doses of cognitive dissonance taken to extremes.Vainamoinen -Talk -Stuff 23:57, 25 July 2016 (UTC)
That's a nice bit of musing and all, but to put it simply, we take our etiquette policy very seriously here. Some friendly trash-talking (or whatever those comments might be classified as) are all well and good between friends and acquaintances offline, but on this site, we expect our members to be courteous in their dealings with others. Whatever issues you may or may not have with Silencer are between you and him, and out of respect for his privacy (and yours), it would probably be best if it were kept that way. Zul do onikaanLaan tinvaak 00:48, 26 July 2016 (UTC)
Other than challenging the general competence of people online I find it an interesting opinion that trash talking has occurred, and exclusively from myself, to be entertaining. Such is opinions. Vainamoinen -Talk -Stuff 01:23, 26 July 2016 (UTC)

Typing error in signature[edit]

I observed the user page link in your signature links to 2805 rather than 3805. However, your user talk page and contributions list are linked correctly. Hope it is helpful to you. —MortenOSlash (talk) 04:49, 20 September 2016 (UTC)

s'what I get for using my phone to edit things. Should work now.Vainamoinen -Talk -Stuff 05:06, 20 September 2016 (UTC)
Yes, it seems to work. Happy to help! —MortenOSlash (talk) 05:05, 21 September 2016 (UTC)