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Guild Halls

Going through the NPCs and detailing their homes' contents has raised a question... Where do we list the contents of Guild Halls? The contents of, for instance, the "Bravil Fighters Guild" should not be described on Oblivion:Vincent Galien, but where should they be described? Do we need pages for each Guild Hall? After all, unlike the shops pages (which have an argument for being described on the shop-owners' pages) there is no other reasonable article for the info, unless we want to add a lot of content to Oblivion:Fighters Guild, etc. --GuildKnightTalk2me 15:54, 23 April 2009 (EDT)

Also, since I posted this question, a couple more things have come up... What about the Chapels in all the cities? The contents of the "Great Chapel of Mara" shouldn't be described on Oblivion:Uravasa Othrelas, but, again, where? There's also a couple of smaller things I've come across, like the "Office of Imperial Commerce" and the "Imperial City Lighthouse". While I'm bringing this up, we might as well decide what to do about the smaller locations, too. --GuildKnightTalk2me 01:05, 30 April 2009 (EDT)

I guess we probably do need individual pages for such buildings: guildhalls, chapels, and other buildings that aren't clearly associated with a specific NPC. A handful of similar pages have been created already for Morrowind (e.g., Morrowind:Guild of Mages (Balmora)), and we do need somewhere to document such information (including somewhere to move edits such as this one).
My main concern would be ending up with a ton of meaningless articles overnight -- I'm not sure there's any point in creating an article if it all contains is "This is the Fighters Guild in Bravil". Of course, you're not planning to do anything like that, GuildKnight. Just for anyone else who's interested in helping out, I'd suggest that editors take time to create useful, well-formatted articles one at a time, instead of rushing to quickly create a ton of stubs. --NepheleTalk 16:14, 2 May 2009 (EDT)
Agreed. I remember suggesting the chapels would be better than the castles, but that suggestion fell on deaf ears... I think in general any building in which an NPC sleeps is worth a page. That means eventually doing a job on White Gold Tower too, for instance. –RpehTCE 01:25, 3 May 2009 (EDT)
One thing that could be is to decide what level of building gets its own page. Small houses and small offices most certainly do not need individual pages. These small structures can be placed in the city/district they preside, or you can make a Oblivion:Bruma Houses page, or something of the sort. --Mr. Oblivion 02:07, 7 May 2009 (EDT)
I'd rather not have a Bruma Houses page. With Morrowind, pages like this make sense because you can't buy houses yourself. What we're trying to do in Oblivion is document the contents of the places where people live. In most cases, the best place to do that is on the NPC page, since only one person lives in the house, or they share it with a family member. The place pages we're looking at creating are ones where a group of people live in one place and there's no way of assigning ownership to one of them. –RpehTCE 07:40, 10 May 2009 (EDT)

(stop outdent) Just a quick thought in regards to Guild Halls. Most of the items that are within them are property of the Guild Faction, not of a specific NPC. If you see the work I have been doing on Mages Guild NPCs, you'll notice that in the 'house contents', I only mentioned the items within the Guild building that they specifically own. Creating Guild Hall pages might be a good idea, but I personally see little collision between such pages and an NPC's 'house content'. --SerCenKing Talk 08:37, 10 May 2009 (EDT)

The point is to describe the locations of interesting items. For NPCs with houses, that can be done on the NPC page. For those without, or who sleep in communal areas, there is currently nowhere to document them. This will solve that. –RpehTCE 08:48, 10 May 2009 (EDT)
A good idea. This is the thing that annoys me most. What the? There isn't a Leyawiin Mage's Guild page? Well there's a Leyawiin branch of the Mage's Guild isn't there? theg721
I just added a VN tag to the pages I still need to check in-game - mostly to keep track myself, but also to invite other users to participate. Hope, it's okay! Krusty 22:25, 16 August 2009 (UTC)