Oblivion talk:Crime

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Even more jail followers...[edit]

Hello, today I come outside jail, and Surprise! I have a crowd of admirers including The King of Miscarend, his zombies, the Bleak mine guards, and Maenlorn! Well, I guess life catches up with you eventually. I was quite surprised though when they all showed up, Bleak mine guards decked out in daedric armor fighting a lich. 00:00, 17 October 2011 (UTC)

without getting infamy?[edit]

Is it possible to commit a crime and not get an infamy point? — Unsigned comment by (talk) at 03:41 on 19 October 2011

Yes. Just avoid gaining a Bounty of more than 500. Bauglir100 04:26, 17 February 2012 (UTC)

Removing stolen tag via console (pc)[edit]

What is the code to remove stolen tag on an item? 02:32, 2 November 2011 (UTC)

I'm unaware of some code to just remove stolen tags. The most common tactic is to just sell an item to a fence, and then buying it back. This clears it's status as a stolen item as you're the new owner. --AKB Talk Cont Mail 02:34, 2 November 2011 (UTC)
Thank you for your quick reply, but i am seriously having difficulties here, first off its a modded item, the problem is its worth 0 gold, but worth weight so i cant reverse pitpocket the item(s) so it would be very helpful if you had some other alternative method to help..? Thanks99.169.161.243 02:37, 2 November 2011 (UTC)
It's click on the item and type player.setownership, if I recall. -- 02:43, 2 November 2011 (UTC)
Thank you ill try that99.169.161.243 02:46, 2 November 2011 (UTC)
Thank you for the tips, i got a "Set owner ship" CC and fixed it like a charm, you really saved my Argonian Bacon here :P thanks a bunch
You're welcome. This also works for chests that aren't yours (though I don't think it stops the three-day reset) and, I believe, lets you gain access to an area that would normally be trespassing if you do the ownership code on the door into the area. -- 02:50, 2 November 2011 (UTC)
You can also click on the item and type clearownership, which will make the item/chest/door unowned. setownership (with no argument) will make the player into the owner, which you may or may not want. 04:14, 5 March 2012 (UTC)

Console to remove bounty[edit]

I was arrested and sent to jail, however i used the console to set my bounty to a negative, while i was in the cell i cleared the bounty because i knew a negative bounty would crash the game. I set it to zero and the game crashed when i tried to serve my sentence. I figured that you cant serve no time just as serving negative time, so on the second go around i set it to 1024, well the game crashed again when trying to serve my time.--Toungennose 19:10, 6 December 2011 (UTC)

Or you could just target yourself in the console and type "payfinethief" before you get arrested...Vainamoinen-Talk-Stuff 08:33, 11 June 2012 (UTC)

We actually should list the crime-related Console commands on this page, since they can be used to resolve bugs (e.g. crashing from too many zero-bounty, unreported "assaults" like attacking the frozen Peryite worshippers to train weapon skills). — Darklocq  ¢ 19:30, 18 May 2018 (UTC)

Serve Time, Skill Reduction Bug[edit]

Does anyone know a way to fix the bug in the coding that limits the list of skills that are reduced while serving time in jail? — Unsigned comment by (talk) at 04:07 on 18 December 2011

At the risk of being accused of self-promotion, if you're on a PC, use the latest version of the Unofficial Oblivion Patch, which incorporates my standalone fix, JailFix. If you're on a gaming console, there's nothing you can do. Robin Hoodtalk 04:33, 1 January 2012 (UTC)

NPC Pickpocket Bug[edit]

Failed pick pocket attempt on an NPC (Aelwin Merowald) and 2 days later I am still unable to pick pocket him. I'm gonna try killing him and resurrecting him with the console and see if that fixes. Vainamoinen-Talk-Stuff 08:34, 11 June 2012 (UTC)

It did but the downside is the resurrect command on the console also resets the inventory of an NPC. In this case he loses items added to his inventory by a quest if you have done that quest for him (resurrect 1 does not fix the pickpocket problem). Easy solution though, just loot them while they're still dead.Vainamoinen-Talk-Stuff 08:40, 11 June 2012 (UTC)

How to avoid assaults?[edit]

I want to create a sword that does no damage and applies heals to my target (but still effective against undead)

How can I use this without it counting as an "assault"? — Unsigned comment by (talk) at 03:38 on 6 August 2012

Unfortunately, I don't think that's possible within the game engine. Jedibob5 (talk) 03:57, 3 June 2013 (GMT)
Yeah, not without a mod. With mods, what you want is one that lets you buy blank staves or scrolls and create your own with various custom enchantments, and there are several of those available at Nexus. Firing a staff or scroll at someone doesn't count as assault unless the effect is hostile. The game already provides some pre-enchanted healing staves and scrolls, so we know that works. Unlike with Soul Trap, Turn Undead is not a hostile spell to NPCs (or the area-of-effect ones would lead to a bounty and/or retaliatory attack any time a random NPC was within range). Short of a mod, you can at least create a custom spell with both effects, if you are in the Mages Guild and have University access, or if you've installed one of the DLCs, like Wizard's Tower (Frostcrag Spire player home) or Vile Lair, (Deepscorn Hollow home), or a house mod, that provide you with you own spellmaking altar. — Darklocq  ¢ 23:03, 18 May 2018 (UTC)

Unable to pay fine[edit]

In order to start the Dark Brotherhood questline early on, I killed the first NPC I saw: an Imperial Legion Forester. That brought my bounty up and sent the guards after me. Trying to pay off my bounty, I had to use the scroll-duplication glitch in order to get enough money but, when I went to pay off my fine/bounty, the option wasn't there. At the time, I had more than enough to pay off the bounty, but when I was first approached by a guard (before I had money), the fine was well above what I had. Is this why I'm unable to pay the fine, or is there some other reason? — Unsigned comment by (talk) at 17:43 on 10 October 2013

It's probably because you didn't have enough the first time. Bounties can be sorta buggy. Commit a minor offence, like say picking a lock in full view of people, and get a small increase in your bounty. You should be able to pay it off then. --Morrolan (talk) 19:24, 10 October 2013 (GMT)

Sanguine Bug (possibly)[edit]

Moved to Oblivion talk:Sanguine

Never getting bounty[edit]

My character has 49 fame and has recently completed the main quest. I am also part of the Blades and have no infamy. I found that I can kill guards and steal items right in front of peoples faces and take no bounty or infamy. It still registers in my journal as stolen items and murders. I even broke into the castle and had a guard tell me that he would arrest me, but he never followed through with it. Does anyone know what could be causing this? 16:56, 9 July 2015 (UTC)

Sounds like mod-related interference with the crime system. — Darklocq  ¢ 19:33, 18 May 2018 (UTC)

Skills Reduction[edit]

The recent edit suggested that all skills could be reduced, while the page previously had a list of 10. I've looked at the archives and the evidence is unclear as to the exact conditions. The listed 10 came from one post to which one reply suggested it was your major skills which decreased. Evidence and game versions would be appreciated. Silence is GoldenBreak the Silence 19:42, 2 February 2017 (UTC)

Bounty with no witnesses[edit]

So, I needed the blood of an argonian to cure vampirism and decided to sacrifice the npc Usheeja, only to find that it seems I always incur a bounty for it no matter what. I killed him in the street, but sneaking, and without being detected, and I still got a 1000 gold bounty. I then tried killing him again in his house, sneaking, with no witnesses, and still got the bounty. So then instead of breaking into his house I waited until the door was unlocked so I wouldn't be trespassing. I killed him again without being detected by him or anyone else and still got the bounty. So then i tried attacking him in his house without sneaking, and when I attacked him I got a bounty for assault, but when I killed him, the bounty for assault didn't go away, but I also didn't get a bounty for murder. Then, just as a test, I killed someone else outside Usheeja's house while sneaking and undetected, and lo and behold, no bounty. It seems that killing Usheeja is doomed to place a bounty on you no matter what. — Unsigned comment by (talk) at 08:59 on 14 December 2017

More likely, you didn't kill him instantly in one hit; if you don't, and the character has a Responsibilty above a certain amount (I forget how much) and isn't "evil" (a bandit, marauder, necromancer, etc.), then when they cry out at being attacked, this results in a bounty. Guards can hear through doors, and have unrealistically good ears, just like their eyesight can see for miles. It's silly, but it's the way the game works, and UOP hasn't tweaked that part of it. Various mods like AoG do so. — Darklocq  ¢ 19:37, 18 May 2018 (UTC)

Cheydinhal bounties[edit]

1) I have completed the Corruption quest in Cheydinhall yet was fined 60g for assault (over charge).

2) I did not assault anyone. I ran through town as the Gray Fox, entered a store and sold my loot. Then after taking off the hood I went back outside to yield to the guards but had the bounty for assault. This sometimes happens and I don't know why. Is it because some NPC was shot by a guard with friendly fire during my runs? Is it because I had arrows equipped? They seem to accept my yields if I unequip arrows and just present the empty bow for the block-yield.

Chicken Slayer (talk) 21:57, 13 June 2021 (UTC)