Skyrim talk:Karliah

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Finishing Quest[edit]

So at the end of the final thieves guild quest, Karliah is supposed to go to Nightingale Hall but for some weird reason, she goes back to Snow Veil Sanctum. I'm guessing this is a bug? She shows up once you restore the guild to its former glory, and then goes all the way back to Snow Veil Sanctum, where the cinematic occurred. Even if you use console commands to place her at the player, she just walks back to Snow Veil Sanctum. — Unsigned comment by Eksynyt (talkcontribs) at 21:24 on 18 November 2011

-I get this as well. — Unsigned comment by (talk) at 18:34 on 23 November 2011
-I also got this i'm stuck inside the room and unable to get out since Karliah is not there so that i can speak to her. I have to revert back a save game and give up on finishing this quest line... kinda depressed about it. Hope they can fix this somehow. — Unsigned comment by (talk) at 00:26 on 19 December 2011
-I had this aswell, I waited 24hrs (did nothing), changed my original choice of power, then I went into magic>powers>equipped strife, exited the menu, then drew my weapon. As soon as I drew the weapon something instantly triggered, gallus and karliah started to talk and I was able to finish this quest. Please try this if you have the same problem.— Unsigned comment by (talk) at 23:56 on 26 January 2012

() Is there any way to un-glitch her and get her to return back to where she belongs? ( 07:15, 25 November 2011 (UTC))

It's not much, but having the same problem, I think that game somehow fails to recognize that the quest is finished, as it still treats Gallus' journal as a necessary quest-related item when every other journal can be dropped after finishing a quest. Also because the Nightingale Hall stays as it was (there should be a portal to Twilight Sepulcher at least). Checking TG09 (Darkness Returns) with SQS revealed that my game never recognized me entering Quest Stage 0, after rerunning the whole quest with setstage and SQS Console commands, I did at least force the Inner Sanctum to stay in the "activated" mode, but it never fixed the Karliah bug, and I think the Sanctum got fixed because I glitched the game even more. Maybe this will provide some ideas concerning how to fix this bug 13:08, 6 December 2011 (UTC)
I followed a similar method for the "Under New Management" quest (TGLeadership). I used "resetquest TGLeadership" then "setstage TGLeadership 0" and redid the quest normally. After finishing it I saw Karliah start going in the direction of Snow Veil Sanctum, and eventually found her there. Checking "SQS TGLeadership" I found stage 50 as marked incomplete. Upon using "setstage TGLeadership 50" Karliah was instantly teleported to Nightingale Hall. You should also use "setstage TGLeadership 200" to get her past the quest-specific dialogue. EDIT: Fast-forwarding a few hours reveals she returns to the Sanctum once again. — Unsigned comment by (talk) at 06:02 on 11 December 2011
I tried the same method with the console and all and for me, she doesn't go to the Sanctum, at least for now. She heads to the Thieves guild area where you had the ceremony for G.M. and she just stands there. — Unsigned comment by (talk) at 07:38 on 16 February 2012
So... for people who are wondering why Karliah does not go to Nightingale Hall after the Thief Guild quest line is done, here is the reason: There is a sub quest associated with Karliah called "TG09post" (this quest is not in your journal and is use to keep track of her behaviour); a condition associated with this quest's completion is a flag used to send Karliah to Nightingale Hall, and to assume a standard eat/sleep routine there. (the scripter forgot to set the flag!!!) For computer players there is a fix for this using the console as such: after you have become the guild master type this into the console "completequest TG09post" she will immediately go to Nightingale Hall and assume her routine there. FYI I know that during Karliah's dialog that she says Nightingale Hall will be upgraded and a portal added there: the only programmed upgrades in the game are the two beds and table in the first room, absolutely no portal was added to this zone (this was an obvious oversight on the scripter's part). Non PC users are screwed, sorry you will have to wait for a patch. — Unsigned comment by (talk) at 11:38 on 25 February 2012

() At the end of the Thieves guild quest Karliah does not return to the Nightingale HQ but heads to the basement of Frozen Hearth Inn in Winterhold. She will greet you as though you are back in the Nightingale Hall. — Unsigned comment by (talk) at 13:49 on 25 November 2011

Is she a companion/follower after the quests, or is she just a follower for blindsighted? — Unsigned comment by (talk) at 08:36 on 27 November 2011
WHY CAN'T WE MARRY HER!? She's so softspoken and attractive for a Dunmer, I am sadface. 23:19, 30 November 2011 (UTC)
I believe the game won't let us do it (even by console) just because her voice actress doesn't share with another character who can be married, seems vex and tonilia are the same tho. — Unsigned comment by (talk) at 13:34 on 15 December 2011
Don't forget that the story itself says that she loves Gallus, and in the ending of it, he(spirit form) says that is waiting her in some kind of place where the dead goes just for the night-something (forgot the name) , not Sovngarde. — Unsigned comment by (talk) at 02:16 on 19 January 2012
He's become part of the Ebonmere, the shadow that guides Nightingales and other thieves, and her description of how this occurs sounds very personal, "their hands are on ours." So fuggetaboudit. Alive or dead, they will never be apart. Quite romantic, actually. -- 03:39, 11 February 2012 (UTC)

() I have a slightly different glitch, I get to nocturnal and she speaks and dissapears but the quest doesnt update to 'Speak to Karliah' I got round that by waiting however after that when you talk to her and she tells you to choose an agent is the problem, once she stops speaking she dissapears, I then choose an agent and gallus appears and says 'Karliah!' except she isnt there and therefor doesnt return to nightingale halls. — Unsigned comment by (talk) at 21:38 on 25 January 2012

Okay, so i can't get out of the Nightingale ritual room, because the stupid gate thingy is locked!! and i can't pull the damn lever cause it's on the over side!!!! WHAT THE HELL DO I DO?! — Unsigned comment by (talk) at 10:11 on 5 April 2012


Dark Elf? Her eyes are bright blue.... — Unsigned comment by (talk) at 02:28 on 29 November 2011

Is she supposed t be a hybrid?
She doesn't look like a lot of Dunmer, it's possible she has some human blood in her. 07:50, 2 December 2011 (UTC)
If it was up to me, I'd make SURE she'd get some human blood in her. ;) Also - updated the page to reflect the speculation. — Unsigned comment by (talk) at 19:06 on 4 December 2011
If anyone bothered to look around Nightingale Hall, you would find her entire history :-/ Otherwise, yeah, She's standing at the back of Snow Veil welcoming me to Nightingale Hall. — Unsigned comment by (talk) at 03:06 on 3 December 2011
More purple than blue, maybe meant to be an easter egg referencing Drizzt Do'Urden. — Unsigned comment by (talk) at 19:31 on 13 January 2012
I personally think she might be a descendant of Barenziah's last child, the non-pure Dunmer child of Jager Tharn. Its fitting since he was The Nightingale, and she is now a Nightingale much like its fitting shes in the thieves guild of Skyrim like Barenziah was.-- 15:20, 17 February 2012 (UTC)
The book The Nightingales Vol. 2 gives another version. According to that she is the daughter of Dralsi, who in turn is the daughter of Barenziah and Drayven Indoril. Nothing is said there about the race of Dralsi's husband.--Alfwyn 15:27, 17 February 2012 (UTC)

Unimportant Glitch[edit]

It isn't an important glitch, and in fact does not seem to affect the game at all, but sometimes during Speaking with Silence, when you are watching her encounter with Mercer, she will not chug an invisibility potion as she is supposed to, but will turn invisible anyway. For some reason the animation doesn't always trigger. I didn't think it was even close to important enough to add to the article, but thought I'd mention it here. 10:06, 9 December 2011 (UTC)

There should be no "chug a potion" animation at all. She should be using the Nightingale special power Agent of Shadow to disappear, unless Nocturnal is so pissed off at her that she's had her powers temporarily pulled. -- 03:34, 11 February 2012 (UTC)
if you followed the quest line correctly that is the case, there are no powers untill the skeleton key is back in its original place.— Unsigned comment by (talk) on 9 April 2012
By that logic, wouldn't Gallus Desidenius be the Agent of Strife, and shouldn't his page be updated to reflect that? 00:57, 10 March 2015 (GMT)


Moved from article Robin Hoodtalk 06:31, 28 December 2011 (UTC)

WTF she disappeared from my game completely , AFTER I finished Under New Management! i did wait in nightingale hall for her to come back, and did the same thing in Snow veil sanctum so some of you guys might have the same problem — Unsigned comment by (talk) at 05:16 on 28 December 2011

Try the Frozen Hearth's basement in Winterhold. Or alternatively (if you are playing the PC version), player.moveto 58F1A. This console command will teleport you to her directly. :) — Unsigned comment by (talk) at 00:55 on 30 December 2011
Found her in the Frozen Hearth's basement, but what now? How to get her into the Nightingale Hall? -- 20:00, 27 January 2012 (UTC)
Bug - Karliah and Bjrindolf are not stand by Nightingal Hall. Have youu an new Patch — Unsigned comment by (talk) at 08:58 on 13 March 2012

Make a playable character look-alike[edit]

I am planning on playing a dark elf female named Karliah and I wanted her to look as exact as possible to the real person. Has anyone tried this and know how to do it? thanks to anyone for the help — Unsigned comment by (talk) at 23:04 on 18 March 2012

Best you can do is get a really good screenshot of her. Actually, get a few, from a bunch of different angles. Then just try to match it to to pictures. • JATalk 08:09, 1 April 2012 (UTC)

Karliah can't be made, due to the fact she has purple eyes and light brown hair, which aren't Dunmer attributes. Saromango (talk) 06:44, 6 September 2012 (EDT)

Voice actor[edit]

Does anyone know who her voice actor is? Is it the normal Dunmer or some unique voice? It's very very beautiful and I don't think I've heard it from another NPC in Skyrim but I want to say I recognize it from Oblivion... MrL 21:16, 22 March 2012 (UTC)

According to this page, it's Moira Quirk. Wolok gro-Barok 20:36, 30 March 2012 (UTC)

Karliah breaks her promise[edit]

After donning the Nightingale's armour, Karliah told me and brynolf to wait. She said after "she opened" the gates(spears pointing up)sanctuary for our initiation, the quest said I should head for the western flatform. But then after the dialogue, brynolf proceeded to the gate while karliah walks away towards the exit of the hall. Is this a bug? Ive seen the chain on the right side of the gate, but for some reason I cant pull it to open the gates, it says "You cant use it now.". I guess its karliah's job to pull the chains. but then Karliah is exiting the hall so how can it be opened? pls help me — Unsigned comment by (talk) on 22 March 2012

I finally made Karliah pulled the chains!hurray!!!What I did was,wait for two game days then fast travel to winterhold,then to riften, then went back to NIghtingale's hall, used "prid [karliah's id i forgot]" in the console then type "moveto player" in the console still. After she showed up, she immediately began to walk towards the chains then pull it to open the spear gates!hope Ive helped someone out there!
D — Unsigned comment by (talk) at 01:39 on 24 March 2012

Karliah bug[edit]

She always goes back to snow veil sanctum regardless of how many side quest for delvin and vex you do. Is there a specific way to complete the questline to make her go to nightingale hall???KingKTalk 17:43, 14 August 2012 (UTC)

In my experience with this bug, you have to perform the side quests before completing the quest line. Otherwise, you'll never advance further. --AKB Talk Cont Mail 18:04, 14 August 2012 (UTC)

Post-Under New Management encounter[edit]

I finished Under New Management, walked outside, and ran into Karliah in Riften square. I followed her outside to the docks. She walked to the front door of Riften Warehouse and then bumped into the doorjam every few seconds as she tried to walk east, but eventually stopped and just stood there. I Waited a few hours, and she disappeared. I fast-traveled to Nightingale Hall, and she was there. Anyways, I hadn't seen this mentioned anywhere else, so I thought it worth noting. If people can't find Karliah at Snow Veil Sanctum, Nightingale Hall, or the cellar of the Frozen Hearth, here's one more place to look. This was late Sundas night/early Mondas morning, in case it matters. Minor EditsThreatsEvidence 01:55, 25 September 2012 (GMT)

Hmmm, that does sound strange as I've only known her to be stuck in either the Frozen Hearth cellar or Snow Veil Sanctum if she doesn't return to the Nightingale Hall upon completion of Darkness Returns. I'll try to include it in the bug note already listed on the page about her not returning to Nightingale Hall. Might I ask what console you were playing on also? -Helenaannevalentine(talk) 02:44, 25 September 2012 (GMT)
Xbox 360. Minor EditsThreatsEvidence 02:49, 25 September 2012 (GMT)
Okay thank you, I'll now add that detail onto her article page for future reference for other players. Thanks once again for bringing this to attention :) -Helenaannevalentine(talk) 02:51, 25 September 2012 (GMT)
I've found a way to get past the bug.Its the position you are standing before Karliah enters the cave to make the oath.In my case after retrieving the Nightingale armor Brynjolf will walk with Karliah and stops before the entrance and both of them is standing opposite to each other.All I need to do is to stand in front and center of both of them making a triangle.After Brynjolf's dialog is complete,Karliah speaks to me instead of walking away. — Unsigned comment by (talk) at 17:00 on 4 July 2013

Nightingale Bow[edit]

Since the Blindsighted page says "she will give you her Nightingale Bow" (my emphasis) she must have switched out her usual bow at some point. Cheers, CapnZapp (talk) 15:24, 2 October 2012 (GMT)


Everytime I finish the quest to decrypt gallus journal I get the blade from karliah and am told to meet with the guild members, the following quest doesn't activate so she heads back to snow veil sanctum where she's glitches into shooting me again and no Frey is present, I've done this quest a few times and have four nightingale blade swords . What am I supposed to do?

Part Dunmer[edit]

In the article it says that there is speculation that Karliah is only part Dark Elf, but I do not believe this can be true, as in lore if two species mate the child will take the appearance of the mother and not become mixed. I believe that this line should be removed, but I decided I would ask and tell my position before doing it. 17:52, 11 January 2013 (GMT)

That's not always exactly how it works, read the source again. 04:31, 13 February 2013 (GMT)
That is correct. The child will have features predominately of the mother's race, but will also have some aspects of the father's race. This is how Bretons were born, as, though they are considered human now, are the result of Elven and Human interbreeding. Jeancey (talk) 20:26, 13 February 2013 (GMT)

Restarting Quest Line[edit]

I just saw her at snow veil sanctum and attacked out of her out of anger, she became hostile so i attacked her some more, i then used unrelenting force to throw her down the stairs and she started the dailouge she had when she poisons you. weird.... just restarted the quest line over from starting silence. — Unsigned comment by (talk) at 01:59 on 1 February 2013

Karliah rests at Lakeview manor?[edit]

I'm having a strange issue with Karliah. She gave me her bow when I talked to her outside Bronze Water Cave, and then I completed the quest Blindsighted (BTW, Brynjolf stayed in the cave). After that, she started walking towards Windhelm and I was curious about where she headed, so I started following her. I have finished the Thieves Guild quest line once before, but it was almost a year ago, so I couldn't remember how the quest proceeded after that point and I'm pretty sure I didn't follow her back then after completing Blindsighted.

Anyway, we walked to Windhelm together, and then she followed the path from Windhelm to Mixwater Mill, Valtheim Towers, passed through the southern gate in Riverwood and continued walking towards Falkreath. At that point, I thought she was going to Twilight Sepulcher, but then she stopped walking at Lakeview Manor and she started mining ore from the ore vein near the carriage! After a while she walked up to the balcony and sat there with the housecarl. My attempts to bring her near Twilight Sepulcher using console commands have all failed as she immediately started walking back to Lakeview manor. I wonder if anybody has experienced this issue before. --Kinlar (talk) 14:44, 29 March 2013 (GMT)

My guess is that her path takes her through the location where Lakeview Manor is built - keep in mind that it's added by Hearthfire, so when it was initially set up, there was nothing in that location. As for why she stops there, my guess is that it was only because you were following her. NPCs that are near you are more likely to interact with objects in the world, such as ore veins and chairs. If you'd let her go on her own, she'd have probably walked right past it to her destination. — TheRealLurlock (talk) 15:05, 29 March 2013 (GMT)
I doubt that's the case. NPCs only interact with the world when they are in some sort of a sandbox AI package, but she clearly had a goal/target in mind which brought her all the way to Lakeview. Also, I was always with her along the road and she never interacted with anything, why now?--Kinlar (talk) 17:19, 29 March 2013 (GMT)
After completing "Darkness Returns" I thought I'd find her either in the Nightingale Hall, or in the Ragged Flagon or perhaps in Snow Veil Sanctum, but no. Can you guess where I found her eventually? Yes, sitting on the balcony at Lakeview Manor! Brought her to the Nightingale Hall using moveto command but she insisted on going back to Lakeview. --Kinlar (talk) 19:07, 29 March 2013 (GMT)