Skyrim talk:Frost Breath

Typo About Description

I don't think it is a typo that it says "you thu'um" instead of "your thu'um". If you think about it, it makes since to be you. Thu'um means shout right? so it could mean shout like a verb. so it says in english "you shout a blizzard. Babytoke 12:13, 28 November 2011 (UTC)

Off the top of my head, I can only think of examples of Thu'um being used as a noun, but this explanation sounds plausible. Does anyone have an instance of Thu'um being used as a verb? Chris3145 18:17, 28 November 2011 (UTC)

I don't have any proof of this, but the dragon language is mostly just english replaced with other words, so "a shout" and "to shout" should be the same as "a thu'um" and "to thu'um".Jyggorath 12:46, 9 January 2012 (UTC)

I still think "your" is what was meant. "Your breath is winter, your Thu'um a blizzard" certainly sounds much better than "Your breath is winter, you Thu'um a blizzard." Granted, they haven't fixed it yet in a patch, but then again they leave tons of things unfixed. I don't know. Chris3145 14:47, 9 January 2012 (UTC)

(←) It does say "you" in the CK, and I can only imagine (since I can't think of any examples to the contrary) that "thu'um" is used only as a noun, so it was probably meant to say "your thu'um." However, when I tried adding the {{sic}} tag to show this, it...didn't work very well. Any of you template gurus know why? –Eshe^talk 21:32, 19 March 2012 (UTC)

Does augment frost affect this?

Does augment frost affect this? 50.99.131.242 17:57, 21 February 2013 (GMT)

cause game data suggests that it is affected. Dawn (talk) 23:29, 9 March 2013 (GMT)

Dragonborn Frost vs. Ice Form

Has anyone tested this ability added by Dragonborn in comparison to the already existing Ice Form shout? It seems like Dragonborn Frost makes Ice Form mostly redundant, obsolete, and also redundant. Though Ice Form can freeze enemies for longer (if 2 or 3 words are known), this does way more damage, and has 10-second faster recharge, so I'd expect most weaker enemies would be killed before the difference in freeze time would even matter. (Stronger enemies seem to be immune to both Dragonborn Frost and Ice Form, so it's irrelevant in that case.) We also still need to figure out what types of enemies are immune in both cases. Are there enemies immune to one and not the other? My limited experimentation with Ice Form found that almost anything that was tough enough to be worth the trouble of freezing turned out to be immune, so it was pretty much pointless already. Even more so if Dragonborn Frost does basically the same thing but also does better damage in the process. — TheRealLurlock (talk) 03:15, 13 March 2013 (GMT)

Efficiency

Should it be included in the article that using all three words of the shout is less efficient than using just one or two words? When comparing the damage dealt to the recharge, one or two words is actually stronger than using all three words. One word = 1.66 damage per recharge second Two words = 1.12 damage per recharge second Three words = 0.9 damage per rechage second.

Should this be included in the article? — Unsigned comment by Woodenplank (talk • contribs) at 20:43 on 23 March 2013 (GMT)

Definitely. I think we should point out clear cases where different versions of abilities are clearly more inefficient than others (like with Finger of the Mountain). --AKB ^{Talk Cont Mail} 20:43, 23 March 2013 (GMT)

I agree too, though Two words is 1.4 dps. Silence is Golden^{Break the Silence} 20:45, 23 March 2013 (GMT)

Good catch. It would also be worth checking to see if any other shouts provide weaker returns when compared to cooldown. --AKB ^{Talk Cont Mail} 20:50, 23 March 2013 (GMT)

Well, obviously it's the same for Fire Breath since they have the same damage and cooldown. Marked for Death, Ice Form and Storm Call are all better with each word, be it in direct damage or DPS. Using only one word for Call of Valor might be wise, because Gormlaith wears Steel Plate Armor, while Hakon wears Ancient Nord Armor and Felldir wears Greybeards Robes; they're also all skilled in one-handed, but Hakon and Felldir wield two-handed weapons. Elemental Fury allows for a better bonus even on the long run if you use more words. I think you can cover more distance by repeatedly using two words of Whirlwind Sprint rather than one or three, but this needs testing. If you want to drain only stamina or stamina and magicka, using the one or two words versions of Drain Vitality is clearly better. Clear Skies and Kyne's Peace have a shorter cooldown period than duration, so it's irrelevant. Become Ethereal, Aura Whisper and Animal Alliegance all have greater duration by casting the three-word version, no matter how many times. There is no difference in ratio for Slow Time, and since Dismay has the same duration for all versions, the one-word version is of course the one with the highest efficiency. In the end, all of this is mostly situation dependant. Elakyn (talk) 22:28, 23 March 2013 (GMT)

If you follow Recent Changes, you'd notice I added notes where I thought appropriate. You are right about Whirlwind Sprint's second word being best (simply determined from numbers listed). I disagree on Clear Skies not being relevant due to its cooldown being shorter than its duration. Technically speaking, you are still getting a greater return for the amount of time you can't shout with the first word than the second or third. For the rest, I either agree with you or don't have an opinion either way over whether using fewer or more words is better. --AKB ^{Talk Cont Mail} 22:38, 23 March 2013 (GMT)

Damage Penalty

Someone added that Dragonborn Frost invokes a damage penalty on Frost Breath, in exchange for adding the freeze effect. Can anyone confirm this? The description of Dragonborn Frost doesn't suggest that any penalty should be applied. --AN|L (talk) 14:28, 19 October 2013 (GMT)

The way I read it is that the ice does damage to the player when it is being attacked, but there's no source or reports of either way anywhere I can find. Silence is Golden^{Break the Silence} 19:41, 23 October 2013 (GMT)

There is a damage penalty, I first read about it in the other (uglier) wiki, tested in game. enemies frozen takes almost double the amount of sword swipes to kill even with the extra dot from frost breath. Sorry about the delay but just noticed the changes now 205.206.75.3 19:45, 27 October 2013 (GMT)

In case anyone is curious, the shout will use the same script as the Ice Form shout if the perk is chosen, which gives the enemies 99% magic resistance and 500 pts of damage resistance as long as they're frozen and while they stand up. --S'drassa^Yes? 16:00, 11 December 2013 (GMT)

Ok, good to have it cleared up. --AN|L (talk) 16:19, 11 December 2013 (GMT)

(←) Hmmm, weird. I've been testing it and it seems that it will only freeze enemies for 15 secs with the first word, it will dispel it almost immediately with the second and third words. Can anyone else test this to confirm, please ? --S'drassa^Yes? 16:30, 11 December 2013 (GMT)

Duration of slow effect

Should the duration of the slow effect also have been added to the effect part of the infobox? It is not obvious how long it lasts as it is done now. —MortenOSlash (talk) 19:25, 17 March 2018 (UTC)