Lore talk:Huna

Notability

I'm sorry to bring this up, but I don't think Huna falls under notable lore persons for the lore namespace as per the guidelines, hence he doesn't need his own page. He's a pretty insignificant character and is only relevant by his association with Pelinal. Thoughts? --Jimeee (talk) 11:50, 11 July 2022 (UTC)

Yeah a neat character to see a page made for but not notable and kinda stretching the sources out here when really there’s only one brief mention of him in SOP and then some dev comments from Mk that substantiates further on a romantic relationship with Pelinal and the fact he was male. Dcking20 (talk) 16:54, 11 July 2022 (UTC)

Policies like that are why Tes Wiki is so far ahead of this wiki. A thousand missing pages for characters due to "notability" when every character in lore should have a page, like they do on a majority of wikis (ie Wookieepedia), the outdated policy itself is the problem. Go ahead and keep following the policy all you want but its not doing any favors for Search Engine Optimization, its tiresome how stubborn this wiki is. Keep the page, its an affront to lgbt community to delete it on such grounds. The Rim of the Sky (talk) 17:23, 11 July 2022 (UTC)

This figure is notable for one very good reason, this person is the reason why Pelinal went full murder sprees and this persons death was what caused Pelinal to go mad to begin with. For that reason he is notable. This persons death being notable for causing Pelinal to go murder elves, murder Khajiit without stopping I think is important. For that I disagree with the deletion of the page.TheVampKnight (talk) 18:10, 11 July 2022 (UTC)

This as well, Huna's death is the cataclyst for many events and is why stuff like Lore:Sunspire exist in the first place. The Rim of the Sky (talk) 18:43, 11 July 2022 (UTC)

Yes, this character's death had very far reaching consequences. He also is not the only character in the lorespace with just one lore text that is directly about him. That was one of the primary reasons behind this page creation.Tyrvarion (talk) 18:49, 11 July 2022 (UTC)

Upon pondering over this more, I definitely agree that him serving as a sort of martyr for what ended up being the event that brought an end to the rebellion (Pelinal’s pogroms and defeat of Umaril) it’s definitely enough to justify a page even if the mention of him is brief in SOP. Wish they would name him a martyr saint in imperial religion to really solidify his importance.Dcking20 (talk) 18:59, 11 July 2022 (UTC)

I'm not sure I follow the logic behind this proposal. This is an article about a historical figure, which to my mind clearly meets notability guidelines. The guidelines for Lore:People are designed to exclude game-relevant individuals who are not historically notable. Anyone mentioned in the Song of Pelinal clearly does not fall under those criteria. —⁠Legoless (talk) 20:19, 11 July 2022 (UTC)

Rim's comedy argumentation points aside, this character's entire biography is dedicated to a single sentence in the original book - even if you include the whole martyr angle I'd question historically notability. In my mind these sorts of characters get a Lore People entry at best, as opposed to a full page. Huna-lore can be explained in two sentences. Keep the page if that's what you want - I still think its a bit overboard --Jimeee (talk) 09:34, 12 July 2022 (UTC)