Lore talk:Azura's Star

Cannon?

Is the Star being used by Martin part of the main lore? Should we even try to assume that it is? Elliot (talk) 02:01, 11 July 2011 (UTC)

Well, it's not explicitly stated in a book, so I wouldn't consider it canon exactly. But in this case, the events of Oblivion Mobile should substitute the events of PC/console version in order to remove the ambiguity about what artifact was used. Seeing as how Oblivion indirectly pointed you towards the Star anyway through that book on Martin's desk, I think it's abundantly clear that it was intended to be used. This is all interpretation, of course, but it offers an easy explanation while documenting both versions of the game at the same time (note the anonymity of the "adventurer"). In any case, Bethesda will no doubt shy away from the subject entirely, so true confirmation will probably never be achieved. --Legoless 02:10, 11 July 2011 (UTC)

Hm... to continue this debate, the only usable artifacts in the Blood of the Daedra quest that do not appear in Skyrim are the Ring of Khajiiti and Goldbrand. SirBryghtside 18:23, 31 December 2011 (UTC)

A good point; however, I attribute that to developer oversight/laziness. Haha elliot (talk) 18:30, 31 December 2011 (UTC)

Yeah, probably. But how did Azura's Star get magically resurrected? Looking at Umbra, it's a little strange. Probably just another dev oversight... SirBryghtside 18:47, 31 December 2011 (UTC)

The answer to this might (possibly) be found in Skyrim. There's an implication that artifacts are actually part of the daedra who created them, or at least of their realm. Consider: "Eventually, the Star will fade back into my realm in Oblivion, but I doubt you have the hundred or so years it would take to wait." - Azura; "If we don't do something, the enchantment will eventually fade, and the Star will slip back into Oblivion. Azura will have the last laugh." - Nelacar and "The Star has been cut off from Azura" - also Nelacar.

I believe there are other books that talk of some artifacts appearing and disappearing too. All supposition, of course, but plausible. That would explain why even if an artifact is destroyed it can reappear some time later. rpeh •T•C•E• 20:00, 31 December 2011 (UTC)

Ah, that makes sense. I did think about what they said, just wasn't sure what to make of it. Looks like the article needs updating on Skyrim too ;) SirBryghtside 00:24, 1 January 2012 (UTC)

Pictures

Should the Oblivion Mobile-picture really be here since (as far as I can see) it doesn't show the actual star...? MrL 22:29, 2 March 2012 (UTC)

I think it does - that glowing blob on the upper right on top of the pedestal. I haven't played OBMobile, so I don't know. I agree that the picture does look a bit out of place, but I'm not sure if it's possible to get a better one. Being a mobile game, the graphics are going to be somewhat primitive by comparison. --TheRealLurlock ^Talk 04:07, 3 March 2012 (UTC)

The sprite can be cropped if that would look better. --Legoless 17:26, 3 March 2012 (UTC)

I don't know - the image is already really tiny. Cropping it isn't going to help much. Better would be to get another screenshot where the star is closer to the center of the screen so you know what you're looking at. I don't have the game, or even a phone capable of playing it, so somebody else will have to do that. --TheRealLurlock ^Talk 03:51, 5 March 2012 (UTC)

Probably far too much effort for what it's worth. Besides, it would be hard to get a good centred image without blocking the pedestal. —Legoless (talk) 00:14, 27 November 2012 (GMT)

Celestial object

Doth anyone know how to see or recognize the star on the sky? Afaik it appears only in dawn and dusk and its the then-brightest star, isn't it? In the Arena I sometimes see a very bright and close red star on the night sky, probably a red dwarf companion of Nirn's Sun, it is just far enough to not cause the night to turn to day (red dwarfs aren't very luminous in comparison to Sunlike stars) but it seems to be the closest star to Nirn (other than the Sun) and therefore it is very bright and magnificent on the Arena's nightsky, I wonder if this could be Azura's star. On the other hand, the red dwarf appears only at a certain time of night which would speak against being Azura's star but that may depend on the time zone. Whatever, doth anyone know how to discern Azura's star on the sky from Morrowind, Cyrodiil and Skyrim too? 212.186.15.63 15:55, 28 February 2021 (UTC)