Lore talk:Trinimac

Question regarding the creation of Orcs

• Father Of The Niben suggests that the Orc creation myth may be inaccurate, as Topal the Pilot encountered creatures he called "orcs" long before Trinimac's encounter with Boethiah. - I'm not sure what is the canonical "Orc creation myth", since there are several books about how it happened, but doesn't the Father of the Niben book in fact support the history, instead of contesting it? That there existed ancestors to Orcs before the transformation of Orcs is stated in other books, hardly anyone claims that no proto-Orcs existed. Topal travels during middle Merethic Era and all sources I've seen seem to agree that it was in the middle Merethic Era when the Orcs were transformed due to the encounter between Trinimac-Boethiah.
• Further, The True Nature of Orcs simply states that Orcs appeared around the same time as other groups (end of Dawn Era). It doesn't say that they transformed during Dawn Era. (I didn't see any other source mentioning Dawn Era.) Tib (talk) 15:20, 4 July 2016 (UTC)

Supposed "Aldmeri statue of Trinimac in Auridon" - source?

Is there a source claiming that this statue is actually a depiction of Trinimac? I have never came across anything either in or out of game linking it to him. In fact, this generic statue has only two bits of info attached to it that I am aware of:

• The "Ancient High Elf Statue" furnishing as shown here [1]
• A reference in the Improved Emperor's Guide to Tamriel claiming it "might be... Phynaster".

If there is nothing equating this statue with Trinimac, I believe it should be removed. I mean, if it's purely based on supposed aesthetic similarities with the Orsimer statue, there's another generic Aldmeri statue that looks even more like it, the one standing with a massive sword and shield in Vulkhel Guard.— Unsigned comment by 217.44.197.188 (talk) at 17:11 on 24 March 2019 (UTC)

Dubious claim of an unidentified Altmeri/Ayleidoon statue being Trinimac

The second picture in the gallery -- entitled "Altmeri statue of Trinimac" -- is of an unidentified figure. The in-game name for the statue is "Ancient Elf Statue" and The Improved Emperor's Guide to Tamriel suggests that it might be Phynaster. We have no evidence that it is Trinimac so this probably ought to be removed from this page. TheLinguist (talk) 19:52, 13 April 2020 (GMT)

I agree. I don't see where the connection to it being trinimac comes from. The icon is named "lordstatue001" so it's not from that. Jeancey (talk) 19:59, 13 April 2020 (GMT)

The connection to Trinimac comes from Bewan, which is mentioned as being a temple dedicated to Trinimac and these are the only statues in there, which completely fill the place. Furnishings are purposefully vague, and because of asset re-use, many statues are used to represent multiple things (I'm not going to point out examples, its quite common when you do any quest with statues involved) so I'm quite indifferent over what the statue is supposed to represent The Rim of the Sky (talk) 20:49, 13 April 2020 (GMT)

Too literal-minded

Regarding the Being Eaten section, wouldn't this quote rather mean the tale is somewhat inaccurate, as opposed to somewhat accurate? "Too literal-minded" would imply that the tale isn't to be taken literally, and may be closer to pure myth, speculation, or metaphor. I may not be grasping the situation fully, however, and this paragraph may need to be extended for clarification. --Rezalon (talk) 12:49, 16 April 2020 (GMT)

Aedroth, et'Ada, or Aldmer?

From my understanding, the et'Ada now called Aedra were the first spirits made by Anu and Padomay, who later contributed to the creation of Mundus. Trinimac is listed as a champion, Auriel's greatest knight when "Auri-El led the original Aldmer against the armies of Lorkhan in mythic times" (Varieties_of_Faith:_The_High_Elves). While this could be describing an et'Ada who was on Auriel's side, or a mortal Aldmer, since Auriel was there at that event too, it could be describing an Aedroth. However, everything I've found that describes Aedra lists them as the et'Ada who were tricked into creation. Most of them fled with Magnus, or turned themselves into the Ehlnofey, and we have the whole list of the eight et'Ada who remained to become the Aedra (Akatosh, Julianos, Arkay, Mara, Dibella, Zenithar, Stendarr and Kynareth). Only the orsimer claim that Trinimac also went through the same process of contributing to creation and staying behind, and so is also one of the Aedra, but since their myths are murky, mercurial, and contradictory, it's easy to discount that. I see no other evidence for the early aldmer or anyone else to have considered Trinimac one of the Aedra.

It doesn't help that the Pocket_Guide_to_the_Empire,_3rd_Edition lists Trinimac between Auriel (the chief of the Aedra) and Syrabane (just an accomplished Aldmer) as an ancestor spirit elevated to godhood.

One could argue that since Trinimac became Malacath (assuming this is true), and since Aedra represent stasis and Daedra represent change, Trinimac is more likely to have been a Daedric Prince than one of the Aedra. What else would you call an et'Ada who served Auriel but who didn't contribute to creation? My mere speculation.