General:Are the Tsaesci really snakemen?
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| Source: | Elder Scrolls Forum | ||
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| Writer(s): | Alan Nanes, Michael Kirkbride |
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| Publication Date: | June 2006 | ||
slateman (06-15-2006)
Much of the lore from Mysterious Akavir is from the scrolls and works of Tosh Raka, the "Tiger-Dragon" who was revered as a divine in Akavir. There was a time when the tiger-beings (of Ka Po'Tun) and the snake-beings (of Po Tun) were at war. The snake-beings had already consumed all of the humans for fear they would someday take over their land, but cleverly, the tiger-beings kept a hidden force of servitor humans to help defend them. After the dust settled, there was still a viable force of human warriors (the precursors to the Blades) whose decedents later on were used in the invasion of Tamriel. This led to the remains of the warriors at Pale Pass.
We created the lore, and you can take this as "fact".
MK (06-24-2006)
Immortal vampire snake-men.
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From "The Remanada" (which, granted, is an incomplete document):
Chapter 2: The Chevalier Renald, Blade of the Pig
And in the days of interregnum, the Chim-el Adabal was lost again amid the petty wars of gone-heathen kings. West and east knew no union then and all the lands outside of them saw Cyrodiil as a nest of snakemen and snakes. And for four more hundreds of years did the seat of Reman stay sundered, with only the machinations of a group of loyal knights keeping all its borders from throwing wide.
These loyal knights did go by no name then, but were known by their eastern swords and painted eyes, and it was whispered that they were descended from the bodyguard of old Reman. One of their number, called the Chevalier Renald, discovered the prowess of Cuhlecain and then supported him towards the throne. Only later would it be revealed that Renald did this thing to come closer to Talos, anon Stormcrown, the glorious yet-emperor Tiber Septim; only later still, that he was under instruction by a pig.
Long glory was wife to the all the knights of the dragon-banner, who knew no other and were brothers before beyond many seas and now were brothers under the law named the blade-surrender of Pale Pass. And having vampire blood these brother-knights lived for ages through and past Reman and then kept guard over his ward, the coiled king, Versidue-Shaie. The snake-captain Vershu became Renald became the protector of the northern west when the black dart was hooked into Savirien-Chorak.
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Immortal vampire snake-men.
MK (06-24-2006)
As a developer of TES since I was but a wee lad, I just have to say, no, no, we really don't know everything about it, AT ALL. We're prone to contradiction and hand-waving and, more often than not, inspired bits of ret-con, and, more often than that, protected by the nigh-spooky serendipity that Tamriel's lore provides for itself.
Really, it's spooky. Take my word for it.
We also used to back each other up, no matter what, unless we fought IC on the forums, which was sport and madness. So let me exercise that fellowship again, Knowing What We Know Now:
The Akaviri had Men with them when they invaded. Men fought alongside/under the purview of the Tsaesci. These Men somehow came from a secret stash of the Dragon-Tiger, and were somehow lent to Mankind's previous nemeses, the immortal vampire snake-men, and everyone got their asses handed to them at Pale Pass.
I am filthy with, um, cooperation.
And let me make an effort to reinstate what even I have recently forgotten:
Devs can post. But devs should not post anything about lore unless they do it IC. This is a rule from the olden days that served us so well, from which sprang all of the colorful contradictions and built-in deniability of source that made TES seem alive.
From now on, that's how I'll be posting lore. Like, say, in "Fal Droon's True Accounte of Reman's Triumph at the Blade-Surrender of Pale Pass".
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