User:Dagoth Ur, Mad God/RfU

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Appeal Against Blocking - Dagoth Ur, Mad God

The user Dagoth Ur, Mad God has made an appeal against his indefinite block and so I'm opening the debate on the matter, as described in the Blocking Policy. Although this debate is on the administrator noticeboard, "All registered editors are free to contribute to the discussion" and indeed such contributions are welcome as it will doubtless provide a more rounded debate.

Personally, I see no benefit in reinstating DUMG's editing privileges. His edits have included threats, false material and obscenity, nonsense, blanking, frivolous requests and timewasting talk posts. Even the few occasions on which he did something useful (here's one) were marked by things like nonsense edit summaries. He has vandalised the Oblivion Mod Wiki, ES Wiki, TESCS Wiki and various others, using different usernames and IP addresses. He is currently blocked by at least four ES-related sites. He has edited UESP from a wide number of IP addresses (most of the IPs on this page), necessitating large amounts of work from administrators. His persistent vandalism even led to a complaint to his ISP. Given that the behavior has continued unchanged since the date of his block, I am opposed to lifting it at this time, and am unlikely to change that opinion in the near future. –Rpeh^{•T•C•E•} 08:32, 15 September 2008 (EDT)

(update) DUMG's assertion that his acts of vandalism were unintentional is ridiculous given the timespan over which the edits occurred. Neither do I believe that he has been "productive" on Wikipedia. A glance at his contributions show that most have been edits to his user page, which is one of the things that he was warned about on UESP. (see this and this for detailed posts from Nephele on this subject). In short, DUMG's latest post does not change my mind in any way. –Rpeh^{•T•C•E•} 04:44, 16 September 2008 (EDT)

I agree with Rpeh. The long list of violations should indicate enough that we shouldn't consider this any further at this point. --Timenn < talk > 08:35, 15 September 2008 (EDT)

I also see no evidence that DUMG is willing to become a constructive contributor. He has continued to vandalize other sites while blocked from UESP, and his "appeal" does not at all seem genuine. I am opposed to lifting the block at this time. --GuildKnight^Talk2me 23:35, 15 September 2008 (EDT)

"My block on Oblivion Mod Wiki will expire on the 29th of September. On TESCS Wiki, I was given a second chance."

UESP is not the Oblivion Mod Wiki. It is also not the TESCS Wiki. There is no reason why we should unblock DUMG simply because other wikis have chosen to do so. He vandalized the UESP multiple times, was warned, but continued to vandalize. The Blocking Policy clearly states that this is against the site's rules, and will result in a block. His vandalism on the other wikis may have been less serious or they may have different policies.

This is the UESP, with UESP's policies. Those policies say one thing after edits by DUMG. Namely: "A Block is in order."

As GuildKnight has already said, there is no evidence that DUMG is willing to become a constructive contributer and therefore no reason to unblock him. - Game Lord^{Talk|Contribs} 15:04, 16 September 2008 (EDT)

I agree with the above. Besides having read quite a lot of what has gone on with this user, I've also looked him up on the other Wikis. And in response to his saying he is a productive contributor to Wikipedia, most of the edits he has are to his user page and pages associated with him just as it seems was the case here. I also looked up the user name on other Wikis, and it seems to be associated with vandalism and related subjects in quite a few places outside of Elder Scrolls Wikis. I vote no on lifting the block. --Darkle 21:24, 16 September 2008 (EDT)

Yet another voice in the chorus. I don't remember where I was a few weeks ago, I think it might've been a VtMB board, but I also ran across childish behaviour from him outside of the normal ES sites. Clearly, whether he is truly a child or just acts like one, he needs to mature by several years before any consideration be given to the possibility that he might actually make productive edits. --Robin Hood (Talk • E-mail • Contribs) 13:58, 17 September 2008 (EDT)

I have to agree with whats been said a thousand times already, Dagoth Urs continued vandalism to related sites is simply unnacceptable. Even if he does start to regret his actions and apologizes i feel it woulod simply be too little too late, also as was already said wether or not he will be unblocked on related sites (and you can be certain i will see to it that he is not unblocked on the OMW) is comlpetely irrelevant to the damge he has caused here. --Volanaro ^T•C•E 13:09, 20 September 2008 (EDT)

Just to get another Admin's voice in here, I just wanted to respond specifically to his request that he be given a "second chance". If you look at the talk page, you'll see that he WAS given a second chance, and a third as well. I count 4 block notices there, from 2 different Admins (and I would've blocked him as well if Nephele or Rpeh hadn't beat me to it each time), so you can't claim Admin abuse or something like that. (I can't tell if there were more blocks for which notices were not given. Is there a log somewhere that shows that? I couldn't find it.) And of course there's the countless blocks on all the anonymous IPs he's used since then. I think we're way past "second chance" here. --TheRealLurlock ^Talk 14:29, 20 September 2008 (EDT)

Consensus: One week has passed since the original request and the clear consensus is that this user should remain blocked. –Rpeh^{•T•C•E•} 10:54, 22 September 2008 (EDT)