Skyrim talk:Oghma Infinium

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Above Level 81 with Oghma Infinium?[edit]

Could someone test getting a character up to 100 skill points everywhere with console commands, and then using the Oghma Infinitum? I'm curious to know if it can get you above level 81. — Unsigned comment by (talk) at 13:12 on 22 November 2011‎

Won't work, I'm certain. I picked it up last night, took the Path of Might (combat skills) and already had a Smithing of 100; I got no increase to smithing. It won't push skills past 100, so you wouldn't get anything if you did that. --QuillanTalk 13:20, 22 November 2011 (UTC)
Although you can't raise skills above 100, you can use the Oghma to get beyond level 81 if, when you get there, you reduce some skills in the console and raise them again with the Oghma. That raising of the skills may be sufficient to grant an extra level up to 82. An extreme version of this, combining the console showracemenu command (where, if you change race and change it back again, it resets most skills to starting levels while preserving level and perks) with the bookshelf exploit (which will raise them all back to 100 again, albeit tediously) will get you to level 108 with all the extra perks that go with it. I imagine it is possible to do this repeatedly to get even higher, but I haven't tried. 20:27, 6 October 2012 (GMT)

bound in flesh?[edit]

I think the Oghma Infinium, at least in Skyrim, is bound in flesh, specifically, Altmer, orc, redgard, and (in the top left portion) Dunmer, as well as two portions of Caucasian skin which might be either Imperial, Nord, Bosmer or Breton.-- 21:31, 1 December 2011 (UTC)

Yes, I'd imagine so, as both quests for the book in Oblivion and Skyrim require you to gather souls and essences of several races, so the book is probably made up of mortal races' flesh and powered by their lifeforce and souls. Still, interesting, I never noticed that before, now I'll have to check that out. --Mikeyy (talk) 06:13, 13 December 2012 (GMT)

Origins of the rune charm on the second page[edit]

The rune charm on the second page of Skyrim's Oghma Infinitum is a known Icelandic charm in the real world. Here is a page for reference : — Unsigned comment by (talk) at 21:38 on 26 December 2011‎

I recall there being some speculation on Oghma Infinium being the TES equivalent of the Book of Galdra/Galdrabok. Could no longer find the discussion, and was wondering if anyone felt this was noteworthy. 09:42, 7 May 2014 (GMT)

Breaks Bookshelves[edit]

Using the same bookshelf multiple times will effectively break it, making it unusable. If you're like me and enjoy showing off books in your shelves, use a follower instead. Trade the OI to follower, trade back, use, drop, repeat. Also, not sure if it's a bug, but after patch 1.3, I now have to trade to follower, trade from follower, DROP IT, read it, select "do not read", take it, then read it, repeat. I've confirmed it among 4 different saves on the 360. -- 10:12, 6 January 2012 (UTC)


Is the text in the book known? Or translatable? Ice 20:39, 30 January 2012 (UTC)

I couldn't find anything about it on the oblivion page although it is very similar the the Mysterium Xarxes.RIM 21:05, 30 January 2012 (UTC)

Is it possible to get the oghma infinium back after being read?[edit]

Discussion moved from Oblivion talk:Oghma Infinium#Is it possible to get the oghma infinium back after being read?

I am on my first play through on Skyrim and was unaware of the Oghma Infinium glitch. I believe i read the bood when i did this quest and ws wondering is there anyway ro get it again at all? — Unsigned comment by (talk) at 02:51 on 5 February 2012

Please sigh you're post. unless you use console commands then no, you're only option is to go back to another save. John142 02:56, 5 February 2012 (UTC)
I was able to get the Oghma Infinium back. I just happened to search the books that the Riverwood Trader had. I was shocked to see he had it. — Unsigned comment by (talk) at 17:41 on 25 February 2012
You can IF you immediately drop it from your inventory after reading; i.e. before it has a chance to remove it. You can then pick it back up and keep it. 10:29, 10 June 2012 (UTC)
There is currently no known way to get it back, but if you want to get it back on the PC version, Type the command to give you one of them.
There is, however, an exploit for the Ohgma Infinium.
Firstly, you will need a house with a bookshelf (At least One) Click 'use' on the bookshelf. Then read the Ohgma Infinium. after you have chosen one of the three paths (might, shadow and magic) press exit ONCE. Store the Ohgma Infinium on the shelf. Then click 'use on the Ohgma Infinium, NOT the book case. choose 'do not read' and then press 'take'. Finally, repeat the process from the beginning. after doing this a lot of times, It is possible to reach Lvl 81. Since it levels you up like hell, you will be able to completely fill the skill trees that you choose to complete. When i was Lvl 81, I had become so overpowered, I could kill Ancient Dragons with a few swings with my Legendary Elven Sword (Which was enchanted with the Silent Moons enchantment, that does 20 points of extra damage at night, And the Chaos Enchantment, which did 25 points of damage for each element of fire, frost and shock.) I hope that this Section helps all you Skyrim fans! :3 - Narçius Vitar. — Unsigned comment by (talk) at 10:23 on 15 April 2013‎

Oblivion Walker[edit]

Even though it is removed after reading, does it still count to Oblivion walker? 17:02, 26 March 2012 (UTC)

Yes. Wolok gro-Barok 17:19, 26 March 2012 (UTC)
(edit conflict) Here's the link for it ;). –Eshetalk 17:21, 26 March 2012 (UTC)

Trail Error[edit]

The trail is not working properly. If you look at the page's code, you'll notice it's supposed to trail to both Artifacts and Books, not just Books. I believe that the template for the book summary is to blame here, though I could be wrong. Is there any available work around to fix this? --AKB Talk Cont Mail 17:15, 23 April 2012 (UTC)

Fixed. --NepheleTalk 17:47, 23 April 2012 (UTC)

Multi-Read Bug Still Exists (Confirmed on PS3)[edit]

I just now discovered this purely by random chance. Basically, it's already been established that, prior to the official patch, you could "re-read" the Oghma Infinium an infinite amount of times by going through a convoluted series of steps (see Bugs section in article). That bug was fixed in the official patch so that, if you read it again, it will show you the pages but will not give you the "path of _____" selection dialogue to raise skill levels.

Or so we thought. After reading the book and choosing Path of Might, I immediately dropped the book then picked it back up so that it would not disappear from my inventory (I just wanted to be able to keep it so I could have it sitting on one of my book shelves). Some of the skills (like heavy armor) were already at 100. My character is a male Imperial at level 78.

Anyway, I placed the book on the top floor book shelf at my house in Windhelm. Just for shits and giggles, I read the book and looked at the groovy design work within. Then, just for the hell of it, I tried turning to the next page. It turned to a blank page; then, surprisingly, it gave me the "choose a path" dialogue again! I selected "do not read" and saved the game just to be safe. Then I tried it again. Same thing.

I haven't actually tested beyond that yet, but will post a follow-up when I have the results. I'm going to see if I can do infinite skill increases by reading the book from the book shelf and turning the page. This is on the PS3 with the latest patches/updates installed.

Could you guys attempt to repro this for me? Here's the rough steps:

  1. Drop Oghma Infinium to the ground immediately after reading it and selecting a path for the first time.
  2. Put it back into your inventory.
  3. Place it on a book shelf.
  4. Read it again.
  5. Turn to the next page.
  6. At this point, the pages should be blank and it should give you the path selection dialogue again.

It's possible that the steps can be simplified as well. Either way, please post your results here. 10:25, 10 June 2012 (UTC)

It worked! It will disappear again, even if read from the bookshelf, unless you have it in your inventory and drop it. However, here's where it gets strange: When I picked it up and read it, I immediately got the "choose your path" prompt again. Didn't have to turn the page, put the book on a shelf, or anything else for that matter! So I chose a path, got the skill increases, and dropped the book again. Then when I read it off the floor, right away I got the prompt again. I selected "do not read" and put it in my inventory so I'd be able to drop it again. Then read it again, got the prompt, skill increases, and dropped it. Rinse an repeat ad infinitum.
I'd REALLY like to know if anyone else was able to repro this! As it stands right now, I can't confirm that this isn't simply some other anomaly in my game save file. Has anyone tried this yet? Post here when you do! 22:36, 10 June 2012 (UTC)
Oh and again, this is on the PS3 with the latest official patch installed! I.e. the patch that supposedly "fixed" this exploit. 22:37, 10 June 2012 (UTC)
Tested and confirmed on xbox 360 by myself. Please, other xbox players test as well. Follow same step pattern as described above!! OptimalGrime 19:03, 3 August 2012 (UTC)
Tested on Xbox 360, No DLC, all patches accounted for. I have been able to reproduce the trick upwards of level 45 so far. 23:46, 30 September 2012 (GMT)
Worked for me too (Xbox). Was able to get four different characters up to 81 with this method. Dawnguard & Hearthfire installed, as well as all the patches. 06:16, 19 November 2012 (GMT)
I am able to keep reading and leveling on PC (v1.8 with Dawnguard but no Hearthfire). However, when doing steps above and reading from bookshelf, I got the paths right away but it disappeared from inventory. Here are the steps that work for me on PC v1.8:
1. Drop Oghma Infinium to the ground immediately after reading it and selecting a path for the first time.
2. Put it back into your inventory.
3. Place it on a book shelf.
4. Read - will get paths.
5. Select "Do Not Read" then "Take".
6. Read from inventory, select path, and drop immediately.
7. Repeat steps 2 - 6.
As a test, I leveled 3 times (read it 4 - 5 times) and am certain I could have kept going. Maeve4444 (talk) 03:27, 7 December 2012 (GMT)
Still works as of March 4, 2013 on the X-Box 360. Decided to test it out, since for the first time ever I actually bothered to finish the quest to get it....... ---Gamer3427 (talk) 18:29, 4 March 2013 (GMT)
Doesn't work on the Legendary Edition of Skyrim on the PS3. You can drop and re-read the book, but you only get the path choice once. 14:15, 21 March 2014 (GMT)
I found this on You Tube. I tried it on Xbox with all DLC's and patches, and it worked as of 4/1/13.

CWKnudson (talk) 11:06, 1 April 2013 (GMT)

() Can anyone confirm if Maeve4444's method works or doesn't work after patch 1.9? I really think the patch should just make Legendary skills immune to the bug and leave the bug in general alone. — Unsigned comment by Playerseekingbugs (talkcontribs) at 22:17 on 15 April 2013

What do you mean, "should"? Jeancey (talk) 22:27, 15 April 2013 (GMT)
To the best of my knowledge, 1.9 finally and ultimately closed the book (a lot of pun intended) on this particular glitch. -Kharay (talk) 22:58, 15 April 2013 (GMT)
The second sentence is my opinion of how the glitch should controlled instead of completely fixed, or did they also make Legendary skills unaffected by the only reading of the book you should have now? And did you try this version of the glitch? I haven't seen anything on here about whether the patch kills Maeve4444's particular method for certain. I don't have the patch yet, so I can't find out myself.--Playerseekingbugs (talk) 23:19, 15 April 2013 (GMT)
It just seemed to me that you were saying that the glitch SHOULDN'T be fixed... which makes no sense... Jeancey (talk) 23:52, 15 April 2013 (GMT)
That's actually what I meant. This glitch can only be used deliberately. To my knowledge it has no effects on how the game normally functions, and it only affects personal experiences with the game if a player intends it to. There are more troublesome glitches out there than a book full of incredible amounts of knowledge being able to give characters incredible amounts of knowledge.--Playerseekingbugs (talk) 03:02, 16 April 2013 (GMT)
I think if they're going to remove the OI (which was a stupid thing to do in the first place) then they should give console users the console commands. -- 21:47, 23 April 2013 (GMT)
Why is fixing a clear glitch/exploit a stupid thing to do? I just like how everyone is complaining about about not being able to cheat lol. Jeancey (talk) 21:51, 23 April 2013 (GMT)

Jealous Companions[edit]

This book may have caused my housecarl and spouse to fight, in Hjerim when I place the Oghma Infinium down on the enchanters table my housecarl and spouse enter this dialogue:

Calder: Hey whats this?

Mjoll the lioness: You're too slow. I saw it first.

Calder: No it's mine!

Mjoll the lioness: you can take it off my dead body.

Calder: That can be arranged.

[enter combat]

This may be some sort of glitch, or a programmed incident, I am just recording my observations, others should check this out.— Unsigned comment by (talk) at 15:47 on 20 June 2012

NPCs can randomly fight over any items you drop. Wyartip 21:25, 22 June 2012 (UTC)

Only Adding 4 Points to Skills[edit]

I've been using the reusable OI glitch to prep a new character for Dawnguard and noticed that the text is now only giving me four skill levels per use, rather than the standard five. For example, when choosing Path of Might, my Smithing skill increased from 84 to 88. It's not a real problem seeing as I'm still getting infinite skill points and all, but I thought it was interesting that the values changed. Has anyone else experienced this? Dlarsh(T,C) 16:06, 23 June 2012 (UTC)

As an update, I just finished using The Path of Shadow, and the skill increases were back up to 5 all the way through. I've got no proof for this, but I think the Might skills might have received lower gains because I had the Warrior Stone activated... Dlarsh(T,C) 16:28, 23 June 2012 (UTC)

Question about OI cheat[edit]

If I want to do the bookshelf cheat, will it work if I do it in a bookshelf at a guild, or in a non-respawning, clear location with a bookshelf? 15:48, 24 July 2012 (UTC)

It should work no matter where the bookshelf is located. The simplest way is to do it in one of your houses. 16:44, 24 July 2012 (UTC)

Bookshelf Bug[edit]

I just encountered a weird bug: I haven't yet read the OI, but I put it on a bookshelf in Hjerim. I then decided I didn't like the way it looked on the shelf, so I picked it up again, then just dropped it on a table. Later, when I accessed that same shelf, which was empty, it told me I could place 12 more books on the shelf, instead of 11 (which is the capacity of the other shelves in that bookcase). No big deal, except the OI disappeared from the table and is gone without a trace. I reloaded my last save and saw the same result several more times. I can interact with any other bookshelf in the house without the OI disappearing, just not the shelf on which it once sat. Also, if I put the OI in a container, it doesn't disappear when I access that shelf, but if I then take it out of the container (after having interacted with the shelf) and drop it, it vanishes. Weird. username12345 17:59, 8 August 2012 (UTC)

Update: I was playing around with this a little more, and decided to fill up the shelf with other books, then take the OI outside of Hjerim and see if I could drop it without it vanishing. As it turns out, I could. I then picked it back up and went back inside, and now, even though the bookshelf still says it can hold 12 books (which it can, though the 12th book added is not visible on the shelf, only in the shelf inventory), nothing I do makes the OI disappear anymore, which of course is good. But weird. username12345 18:16, 8 August 2012 (UTC)

About Skill Increases[edit]

I understand it can't raise skills above 100, but can it raise the other ones in the same specialty? For example, I have 100 in two-handed, but the rest of my combat skills are way behind. So can I use it to raise my other combat skills - with the others increasing by 5, and two-handed staying on 100, or do I need to raise magic or stealth instead? — Unsigned comment by (talk) at 21:29 on 16 September 2012‎

You can use it to raise other skills in the same area, yes. It just won't raise that particular one. Vely►t►e 21:51, 16 September 2012 (GMT)


no matter what i try the OI will not allow me to read it multiple times, even with the secondary method mentioned, even if i uninstall the patches from my PS3, I wish to know if this is the same for everybody or if I am just an anomaly. i really hope I'm not an anomaly, that would be infuriating. — Unsigned comment by (talk) at 06:43 on 6 October 2012‎

Issue with not getting levels with use...[edit]

Ok, so my save got corrupted the other day and I had to remake him... no biggy. I go through the motions and finally get the OI. I start to do the glitch and noticed that some of the skills are only getting 4 instead of 5. And in some case even though my sills where leveling up I was not actually leveling the character- E.I Use path of Might and total level bar only goes half way but all might section skills increased as planned. AS a result I am unable to acquire the alloted perk points... I run a 1.7 patched Dawnguard/ Hearthfire Xbox360.


Multiple Oghma Infinium...[edit]

some how i have managed to acquire 12 different copies of the book doing the glitch to get to level 81. I wasnt doing anything odd other then spaming the X button to pick the thing up and not read the book picking it up from a bookshelf (breeze home, alchemy book shelf), and the book shelf said there were 2 more OI still in the book shelf, picked them up and went from 1 to 3, 3 to 5, 5 to 9, and finally i have 12 coppies. And more interestingly is all 12 copies work... 19:04, 26 November 2012 (GMT)Necromion

I did something a bit similair... I put it on the shelf and backed out.. then, I clicked the shelf real quick and took the book.. and backed out, right when the book spawned on the shelf before it disappeared because I had taken it... I read it and chose : do not read.. and put it in my inventory and then I had 2, however when I used one of them, it made the other one act as used as well .. can anyone do this.and see if they can make it to where you use the books individually without them all bring used? — Unsigned comment by (talk) at 02:26 on 31 May 2013

So I tried using the books individually by having one in my inventory and using that then pick up the other books one by one but once you've used it all of them are affected.

No skill points at all[edit]

I've read about people not getting the correct number of skill points, but I don't get any, and I've tried reloading, choosing different paths, etc. I'm using the latest version of USKP so I'm wondering if this is a prevelant bug that would be worth mentioning in the article, or if it's a random glitch. Dbbolton (talk) 05:04, 4 April 2014 (GMT)

I'm getting the exact same problem; I read it, it offers me the different paths, I pick, nothing happens, I put book away, it disappears. AndarielHalo (talk) 19:55, 6 April 2014 (GMT)