Skyrim talk:Hrodulf's House

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Location Bugged[edit]

Got this location for dawnguard ancient technology quest, its bugged — Unsigned comment by Thenightbringer (talkcontribs) at 21:48 on 25 December 2012‎

Can you specify the bug issue you had? Were the schematics not in the chest? Was the quest marker pointing to the wrong place? What exactly was the bug? — ABCface 04:16, 27 December 2012 (GMT)
I have not been to Hrodulf's house yet, but I can confirm that it is at least possible to get it as a destination for the Ancient Technology quest. 172.162.201.2 22:26, 31 December 2012 (GMT)
Thanks, but that's not a bug. Radiant quests often use conditions for target locations which include certain keywords. If a new location is added to the game (from an official add-on or even from a player-made mod) that meets those conditions, then it can be a target. This is how the game is supposed to work. If there's an actual bug, please describe what the bug is. — ABCface 22:39, 31 December 2012 (GMT)
I didn't think it was a bug (Unless you cannot get it from the chest; have not checked yet), but it can be confusing, since it does not show you the quest marker for it while in Skyrim, for obvious reasons. 172.162.201.2 22:49, 31 December 2012 (GMT)

() I also had the Dawnguard Ancient Technology quest send me here, and when I followed the quest marker into the basement, the map indicated that the schematics should be in an inaccessible part of the cell, outside the basement walls. I tried going back to an earlier save, but I get the same thing every time. Also, when I talk to Sorine Jurard to get the quest, she always assigns that location no matter what. — Unsigned comment by 74.207.50.93 (talk) at 22:19 on 5 May 2013

Did you activate the bookshelf and go into the hidden passage? — ABCface 22:29, 5 May 2013 (GMT)
I got this location for Ancient Technology and the schematics are in the dwemer chest behind the bookshelf. All worked fine for me. — Unsigned comment by 86.18.166.247 (talk) at 07:16 on 8 August 2013

Confused[edit]

Not sure exactly what happened here. It's Hrodulf's house, and Hrodulf's journal describes him digging behind the bookcase to find the Dwemer machinery and room below (Why is this here?), gradually going insane from the sound of the machinery below. Bjornolfr, his lover in Solitude, writes him a letter asking him to come home, and states that if he doesn't, Bjornolfr will come for him. The final (bloodstained) letter, written by Hrodulf and found on Bjornolfr's corpse, warns Bjornolfr to stay away from the area. There is a Nordic Dagger next to his body.

The scenario doesn't make sense. If Hrodulf is the one living in the house and going crazy from the digging, why is his body found out at the shore near the boat? Why is Bjornolfr found in the Dwemer room? It would make more sense this way: Bjornolfr did not get a response and came for Hrodulf in the boat, meeting some unfortunate end shortly after arriving (possibly related to the burnt spriggan I found near the boat) and dying there on the shore. Hrodulf, realizing he's going crazy from the effects of the Dwemer room below his house, kills himself with the dagger before getting a chance to send the note. Given Hrodulf's mental state reflected in the note's text, I doubt he would have been able to send the note back to Solitude and have it end up in Bjornolfr's possession.

There's nothing to suggest, as the article currently states, that the Reavers in the house had anything to do with the death of either man, since in that case they would have looted the Dwemer Room's chests and/or the wedding gifts that the player finds on the boat. It seems likely, therefore, that this is a bug, and that the two npcs' positions were accidentally reversed. -Trogdor 03:43, 10 February 2013 — Unsigned comment by 99.141.87.48 (talk) at 03:43 on 10 February 2013 (GMT)

When you enter the basement, you will hear a conversation between reavers, including a line where one asks "Do you think he's the one we left in the tunnel?" (xx037557). There's no way to know exactly what happened to the lovers, considering they are already dead on your arrival, but there is at least some reason to think that the reavers had something to do with one of the deaths. Considering the fact that they were sitting around chatting, it's quite possible they didn't loot anything yet because they're planning on sticking around there a while. — ABCface 07:43, 10 February 2013 (GMT)
Odd. The article suggested there was such a conversation, yet I loaded the autosave to re-encounter the two bandits in the basement several times, and the conversation you linked never played.. They just sat there spouting generic Solstheim bandit dialogue.
... And now I'm even more confused. If B and H are in the places they're supposed to be, and Bjornolfr was killed by the Reavers... Well, that would account for the note being bloody. But it doesn't explain why Hrodulf, in his obviously diminished mental state, is out by the boat Bjornolfr presumably arrived in. It seems Bjornolfr came bearing an amulet of mara and a wedding ring, but when he went looking for Hrodulf he left these things in the boat? So, Hrodulf was just... wandering around outside his house... and stumbled upon the boat Bjornolfr arrived in before being killed? Then how did B get his hands on the incoherent bloodstained letter? H wouldn't have left it in his house for B to find, since the intent of the letter was to keep B away from danger. If he's already at the house, it's kind of too late.
As you said, they're dead, so we're not going to find the answer spelled out anywhere.. but clearly Bethesda had a logical series of events for this little part of the story when they wrote it, and I think it's worth examining the clues to figure out what happened.
I still think it makes more sense the way I suggested it; That Bethesda accidentally switched the locations of the two npcs, and that Hrodulf should have been the one in the tunnel with the bloodstained letter, either killed by the Reavers before he could try to send it or dead by his own hand. B arrived some time later with his wedding gifts and was killed by something before he could take two steps onto the island.
And then on top of all of that mystery, what is with the Dwemer room under Hrodulf's house? It contains this strange, unexplained machinery, and the room isn't connected to any other Dwemer ruins. How would anyone have gotten to this room? Was there a Dwemer building there before, wiped off the map by the eruption, and this was part of the basement? Would the machinery continue to function after that kind of catastrophic damage? So many unanswered questions! -Trogdor 12:23, 10 February 2013 — Unsigned comment by 99.141.87.48 (talk) at 12:30 on 10 February 2013 (GMT)

Possible Allusion?[edit]

I think this might be an allusion to the novel A Fire Upon the Deep by Vernor Vinge. You can find a summary on the Wikipedia page of course, but in short it's about a group of people that find an ancient data archive and accidentally unleash an Eldritch type beast called "The Blight."

Of course it's unlikely that the Dwemer Lockbox beneath the house has anything to do with Vvardenfell's blight, but an allusion is still an allusion.--Stateofdenmark (talk) 05:26, 12 February 2013 (GMT)

I don't see any connection... at all... What evidence is that the underground chamber is a data archive? Also, keep in mind that this was found hundreds of years AFTER the blight... and, only one person discovered the room, the reavers in the basement are completely oblivious to the fact that it even exists. Whats the connection to the novel? Jeancey (talk) 05:44, 12 February 2013 (GMT)
There's not any evidence that it's a data archive or, like I said, at all associated with Vvardenfell's Blight. I'm saying that, especially with the last entry in Hrodulf's Journal: "fire from the deep," it might be a type of Easter Egg, so maybe it's worth mentioning somewhere? I mean, maybe there isn't any mystery about the place at all...maybe it's just the product of some sci-fi fan working for Bethesda that wanted to include a nod to a novel he liked. Also, in the novel, The Blight is capable of possessing and controlling humans, kind of like what apparently happened to Hrodulf.--Stateofdenmark (talk) 05:53, 12 February 2013 (GMT)
It is unlikely that any of this has any connection to the novel. More likely, it was an attempt by someone at bethesda to work in a same-sex relationship into the game. Jeancey (talk) 06:09, 12 February 2013 (GMT)
I disagree. I can see the connection. Besides which, this is not the first time Vinge's novels have been referenced in Bethesda's titles. In fact, the strongest connection I can think of is Vinge's Children of the Sky which has a direct reference in Elder Scrolls lore via the title of the book Children of the Sky. The ES titles are notorious in making references to other works, so I don't see how it's all that unlikely anyway. Aresvallis (talk) 00:13, 17 May 2013 (GMT)
Is there any connection with the content of Children in the Sky? Sometimes people try really hard to find connections that are merely coincidence. We cannot add things that are simply similarly named. Jeancey (talk) 13:44, 17 May 2013 (GMT)
Children of the Sky (the actual book) was published in 2011, but the in game book first appeared in Morrowind, a good nine years before. Not a reference. --~The wind, forsaken~ (talk) 14:28, 17 May 2013 (GMT)

Possible Bug?[edit]

Hrodulf's body never appeared for me. I've found the boat, the broken axe bits & the blood stains, but never any body. Tried a detect dead, but that doesn't show anything either. On the PS3. Malatoth (talk) 13:22, 27 April 2013 (GMT)

Confirmed, Hrodulf's body didn't appear for me either. I found the axe pieces, the strongbox, the boat, and a Burnt Spriggan but no body. I also tried to use detect dead and still nothing. DragonGaming 06:16,9/8/2013.

Hrodulf's House[edit]

After a bit of searching i noticed a space over the top of the bookshelf by the fire pit in the basement. It said hit X to activate the book shelf so i did. lol it moves!— Unsigned comment by 70.24.176.246 (talk) on 20:04 on 6 August 2013

Yes, this is already mentioned in the article. *WoahBro►talk 00:20, 7 August 2013 (GMT)

Confused[edit]

I can't figure out what to do after the bookshelf, and if there is nothing else to do... Why? Some help please. Thanks. DragonGaming 05:58,9/8/2013.

Read the journal and letter, open the bookcase, find the body and the treasure, feel sad for the tragic lovers. That's it. --Xyzzy Talk 05:54, 2 November 2013 (GMT)

Gay?[edit]

Are the two dead lovers gay? Also, I am not saying this out of disrespect, I'm only curious.--Thrapple (talk) 13:51, 2 November 2013 (GMT)

I thought it was obvious, but yes, they were. Bjornolfr calls Hrodulf "my love" in his letter. --Xyzzy Talk 14:27, 2 November 2013 (GMT)

Loading screen freeze[edit]

Whilst doing the ancient technology quest when I try got to the basement it goes to the loading screen and freezes — Unsigned comment by 87.244.82.45 (talk) on 13:27 9 June 2014

The loading bug applies to every loading screen, not just here. Reload your save and continue. Silence is GoldenBreak the Silence 17:47, 9 June 2014 (GMT)
I've tried that I've gone back multiple saves and tried going back to skyrim and returning — Unsigned comment by 87.244.82.45 (talk) at 16:28 on 10 June 2014

() It freezes everytime I try to go in please help — Unsigned comment by 87.244.82.45 (talk) at 16:23 on 10 June 2014

Do you have any mods, are you on the computer, Xbox, or Playstation? The more information you can provide the better we can help you :) Also, please sign your posts with four tildes (~~~~) ~ Ad intellige (talk) 20:27, 10 June 2014 (GMT)
I don't have any mods I'm on Xbox 360 but I do have dawnguard and heart fire but that shouldn't change anything ~bob — Unsigned comment by 87.244.82.45 (talk) at 16:33 on 10 June 2014
Does it freeze on a loading screen? ~ Ad intellige (talk) 20:36, 10 June 2014 (GMT)
Yes I'm the same guy as the chat before this 1 I didn't mean to make 2 ~bob — Unsigned comment by 87.244.82.45 (talk) at 15:56 on 11 June 2014 (GMT)

() I just combined the two sections now and renamed the section with a more descriptive section title.