Oblivion talk:Vahtacen's Secret

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The artifact isn't there![edit]

I made it to the main room fine, beat all the lichs and such [with the loss of my follower] and when I raised the cage the artifact wasn't there! I thought maybe it had gotten stuck in the cage and looked, but I couldn't see it and the cursor didn't change. Any ideas? — Unsigned comment by 76.106.74.107 (talk) at 20:34 on 31 August 2011

Secret rooms?[edit]

On the opposite side of the room with the elven helm in it that you enter from there are 2 unopened gates. I have looked everywhere, and have not found the switch to open either! Could somebody please help? — Unsigned comment by 72.9.11.223 (talk) at 20:43 on September 3, 2011

I think I know which ones you mean, one is locked and cannot be opened. The other one leads you a different way out, and can be opened. At least if they are the ones you were on about. Look at this map for more information - http://www.uesp.net/wiki/File:OB-Map-Vahtacen02.jpg . This might help out. Notes one what the notations mean can be found - on this page. Other than those I can't see which two your referencing. Or where you saying there are two which aren't marked on the map? -- Thanks --KizC ·•· Talk ·•· Contribs ·•· Mail ·•· 10:45, 4 September 2011 (UTC)
I believe the anon is talking about the hidden gate where the Boss undead spawns, on the opposite side of the room as the 2 doors. It is a slide away wall actually, it is not the Ayleid type grates, that open. The pathway leads back to the entrance from Vahtacen, rather than the upper passage back. I've never been able to open it either...I checked the CS but I can't work out the script. --DKong27 Tk Ctr Em 16:09, 4 September 2011 (UTC)
Aaahhhh, I know one of them can't be opened. I don't why, or if it can be forced opened in the CS or what. But I thought the boss spawned in the room, such a long time since I did this quest :) -- Thanks --KizC ·•· Talk ·•· Contribs ·•· Mail ·•· 16:19, 4 September 2011 (UTC)

Not respawning!!![edit]

The scrolls in the chest aren't respawning! I waited 3 days outside but it still won't respawn! Please help me! (I am using PS3) — Unsigned comment by Dunmeroftheritual (talkcontribs) at 05:47 on September 17, 2011

The scrolls are not needed to complete the quest. Look for spells with the correct effects, or magic merchants for scrolls if you cannot access the spells. --DKong27 Tk Ctr Em 05:23, 18 September 2011 (UTC)
Having the same problem on the Xbox 360. The scrolls don't respawn no matter how long I wait. I found other spells for everything except the fortify magicka spell. I tried creating a spell and tried three different combinations of spell: Fortify Magicka 10 points for 20 seconds on target, Fortify Magicka 3 points for 1 second on touch, Fortify Magicka 3 points for 1 second on target. None of these have worked. I used flare for fire, snowball for frost, a damage magicka potion on an arrow for the damage magicka and the fourth spell doesn't open the pillar and zaps me. Any ideas?— Unsigned comment by 24.1.56.76 (talk) at 06:05 on 3 October 2011
Solved it: the bow I was using had a fire effect that upset the pillar after a delay. The damage magicka potion worked and then the bow screwed it up and it took the next spell to reset the pillar.— Unsigned comment by 24.1.56.76 (talk) at 06:13 on 3 October 2011

Scrolls not respawning[edit]

I used the scrolls from the chest in the wrong order... I've waited 9 days now and the spells aren't respawning in the chest. Any ideas? Thnx— Unsigned comment by 70.28.245.91 (talk) at 17:12 on 15 October 2011

(Replied on user's IP address)RIM 20:46, 15 October 2011 (UTC)
(e/c)You need to go outside of Vahtacen and wait for four full days -- without entering back into Vahtacen at all during that entire time -- and then go back to the chest.
(I just changed the article text to say four days. For those curious about the change, you technically need to wait three days and then wait until after midnight. Which means you may need to wait nearly four days in total.) --NepheleTalk 20:51, 15 October 2011 (UTC)

Could not respawn the scrolls either[edit]

I ended up using the console to add the missing scroll because I could not find anything that would copy the effect of Elevate Magicka (Fortify Magicka). So, player.additem 8874 1 solved that for me. I know that only works on PC versions, don't know about the other versions as I only play on PC. — Unsigned comment by DavetheRed (talkcontribs) at 16:35 on 6 March 2012

Vahtachen's first wall won't open![edit]

After I entered Vahtachen Lorsel, I killed the three Gloom Wraiths, but the center wall won't open for me. I've scoured the two side rooms for nearly 2 hours but I found nothing to open. — Unsigned comment by 99.182.127.225 (talk) at 07:23 on 24 December 2012

Ugh, those switches can be a nightmare to find! Try checking the walkthrough here and see if that helps. eshetalk 15:49, 16 January 2013 (GMT)

Attacking Skaleel[edit]

If you attack Skaleel and get suspended from the Mages Guild, when you get unsuspended and go back to talk to her she will only give you the rumor and Vahtacen topic.

This has been unverified for over 4 years, time is up for it to be on the page. Silence is GoldenBreak the Silence 01:31, 29 June 2013 (GMT)

Actully I can Confirm, She only has rumors until you get the Ancient Elven Helmet and then her Quest dialog returns. Dunehelm (talk) 21:23, 4 October 2013 (GMT)

Keeping the Ancient Elven Helm?[edit]

Is there a way to keep the Ancient Elven Helm after the quest? Rider4ever38 (talk) 03:09, 10 October 2023 (UTC)

No. When Irlav Jarol takes the helm from you, it disappears from the game forever. — Wolfborn(Howl) 04:17, 10 October 2023 (UTC)