Oblivion talk:Rigmor

Armor

As unpopulated as the talk page is, I've got something that should be added... I saw Ragmor at her inn with a full set of daedric armor, so I pissed her off and she attacked me. Sweet. Free daedric armor. Anyways, she also had an enchanted ebony helmet. "Helmet of Spell Resistance" Resist magic 13% or self. Just thought someone should know... 67.177.45.240 03:51, 15 June 2008 (EDT)

It's on the page: She wears a full suit of heavy armor, excluding the shield. This armor is the best possible at your level, and the helmet is enchanted. She is equipped with a leveled blunt weapon; at level 3 or higher it will be enchanted. Due to her high aggression, she will attack you if her disposition is low enough. - Game Lord^{Talk|Contribs} 05:31, 15 June 2008 (EDT)

Rigmor's Leadership

Okay, I'd left Major Tom's edits because although I wasn't certain about their accuracy, I wasn't sure enough to take them off. Now LordDagon has done so, I'd like to preempt an edit war by asking exactly what information anybody has that Rigmor might be the leader. As far as I can see, it boils down to the fact that it is she that holds the Note from Claude Maric. I don't think that's enough evidence as it just be that Claude trusts her most out of his henchmen. Does anybody have anything else? –Rpeh^{•T•C•E•} 11:14, 16 July 2008 (EDT)

I've posted a note at Major Tom's talk page, asking him to provide confirmation that they are Rigmor's men before editing the pages again. (Actually did that before undoing his edits here.) I don't see where he could get the idea that she's the leader either, but we'll see what his response is. -- LordDagon 11:20, 16 July 2008 (EDT)

(Written simultaneously to two previous posts)

It's now been added to this page (and S'razirr's and Brucetus Festinius' pages) a couple of times that S'razirr and Brucetus are "her" men, i.e., that she is the leader of this group of thugs. Before another round of edits and reverts, I'd like to suggest that this question be discussed on the talk page to find out why the edits keep being made.

Scanning the game files, the only special mention that I can find of Rigmor is the Note that she carries. While the suggests that Claude trusts Rigmor more than S'razzir, it actually disproves (in my opinion) that the other two are "her" men. Specifically, the note makes it clear that Claude hired S'razzir ("he's the best I could come up with"; Claude determines S'razzir's cut) and that S'razzir's wages were negotiated independently from Rigmor's.

Other than that one note, Rigmor is treated identically to the other two. The locations of the three are labeled as "MS22Thug1Marker", "MS22Thug2Marker", and "MS22Thug3Marker", for example -- no differentiation, no indication that Rigmor is better than the other two. All three belong to the same faction, which identifies them as "Claude Maric's Thugs" -- they are all Claude's men, without any further subdivision.

Unless there's something that I'm overlooking, I think all the articles should just stick to saying that all three of them work for Claude and stop claiming that Rigmor is responsible for the other two. --Nephele^Talk 11:23, 16 July 2008 (EDT)

Hello. It was an assumption I admit, I know it's punishable by death and I am sorry, but I will relate my case kind sirs and perhaps we can straighten this out. Yes, based on the letter from Claude and her top spec armour, I deduced that she's the higher ranked of the three. She's the one Claude is directly communicating with, she's trusted enough for Claude to tell her his suspicions about S'Razzir. I'd always thought that she was the leader of those three mercs in the Roxxey Inn, but now you guys mention it she could be Claude's lieutenant. She's definitely higher up the chain than the Breton and S'Razzir though, I reckon the note proves that alone. She's old enough to be experienced, the best equipped and the most trusted of the three. That Breton and S'Razzir are her men, for sure. But they're on Claude's payroll. What do you guys think? Major Tom 09:31, 29 July 2008 (EDT)

I still don't buy it. My take on the situation is that Claude is the leader of a gang of four and that the other three are all henchmen. Henchpersons. Whatever. She's not the best equipped - the other two also have top armor. As for the other reasons, Nephele explained it better than I ever could. In any case, I'm afraid you aren't going to persuade us. –Rpeh^{•T•C•E•} 09:48, 29 July 2008 (EDT)

Nah, they've got glass armour, she's got Orcish, Ebony or Daedric. Definitely the best equipped. She's warned that S'razzir might betray them.. she's more than a mere grunt, it's plain to see.Major Tom 06:47, 30 July 2008 (EDT)

If you're into Heavy Armor. Glass is the best possible Light Armor and at master level is just as effective as Daedric. –Rpeh^{•T•C•E•} 06:57, 30 July 2008 (EDT)