Oblivion talk:Fort Teleman

Bugs

I just ran the quest involving Fort Teleman, and when I entered, in the initial large room I noticed an arrow sitting up in space way above the altar in the middle and a bit to the left (facing left towards the statue on the column). After fighting the first necromancer, I didn't see and couldn't find the arrow. Anybody else notice it? --Natpoor 17:01, 17 July 2007 (EDT)

There are no arrows placed anywhere in Fort Teleman according to the construction set. While it's possible that a skeleton archer or other randomly generated creature fired an arrow, I can't see any reason why an arrow fired by anybody would get lodged in midair. I even tried firing arrows myself in that general area (assuming I've got the right location), and they all just fell to the ground. On the other hand, if an arrow had been fired by you or a creature, it would have disappeared after a few seconds. All fired arrows vanish after a short time period. --Nephele^Talk 01:25, 30 July 2007 (EDT)

It wasn't moving, it was up too hight and horizontal so it clearly wasn't fired from a bow, so it was a glitch of some sort. I started a new character I'll try to remember to go there and see. Glitches don't always repeat, or new ones appear, I've noticed... I don't have a PC so I can't screen-grab an image of it.--Natpoor 02:25, 26 August 2007 (EDT)

Non Random Loot

Should there not be a mention of the Base Ring of speed? I'm adding it anyway but change it if you like!Drake3555 22:23, 21 May 2008 (EDT)

Oops! I mean Base Amulet of Luck!!Drake3555 22:28, 21 May 2008 (EDT)

Actually, it's an Amulet of Luck, not a Base Amulet of Luck ;) --Nephele^Talk 23:26, 21 May 2008 (EDT)

It was actually on the article already, under the Exterior treasure list. –Rpeh^{•T•C•E•} 05:02, 22 May 2008 (EDT)

Humph! I'm being more baggage than I'm worth! So far thats Rpeh:2 Drake3555:0... I really am going to look harder at pages.Drake3555 21:27, 22 May 2008 (EDT)

(←) As an aside, it appears that, either because of the Unofficial Patch, or because of the wind, the Amulet of Luck can spawn right next to the chest that you are directed to as a starting point. FMPhoenixHawk (talk) 23:46, 1 October 2022 (UTC)

I can confirm that the Unofficial Oblivion Patch changes the initial location of the amulet. While it appears to be an undocumented change (I couldn't find any mention of it in the UOP Version History), I checked using TES4Edit and the UOP does indeed change the X, Y, Z coordinates of the amulet, as well as its rotation. Loading the UOP into the CS and checking the cell reveals the amulet lying on the small bit of ledge next to the chest. I've gone ahead and noted the change in the article. — Wolfborn^(Howl) 07:08, 12 February 2023 (UTC)

Order of the Black Rose

Any more info provided in the game about this particular group? I guess they arent particularly relevant tho... — Unsigned comment by 209.134.75.234 (talk)

Yes, are there any references to this order outside fort tememan?--Arch-Mage Matt 00:50, 10 December 2009 (UTC)

Not really. All that is really known is that it is a necromantic organization. –Elliot ^talk 00:57, 10 December 2009 (UTC)

Just double-checked this in the Construction Set. The only other reference to "black rose" that comes up in a search is in The Real Barenziah, v 4, and that's simply talking about a generic black rose, not the Order. If there are any other references to it, then they're obscured by using terms like "The Order" or whatever. —Robin Hood (Talk • E-mail • Contribs) 02:10, 10 December 2009 (UTC)

Curiousity about this group brought me here. It's more likely a subtle nod to the fact that black roses are often associated with black magic I.e. necromancy. Timeoin (talk) 07:29, 29 October 2018 (UTC)

Nocturnal Shrine

should it be mentioned that their is a destroyed nocturnal shine near where irlav is found? — Unsigned comment by 216.59.251.112 (talk)

I would say not unless there's something particularly important about the shrine itself. I don't remember the area well enough to comment on that at this time, though. —Robin Hood (Talk • E-mail • Contribs) 22:09, 10 September 2009 (UTC)

Well, this discussion is nearly two years old now, but still, I think it should be mentioned in the article. I have just seen this shrine for the first time and was really surprised. I'm not sure if there is "something particularly important" about it, but it's quite an interesting detail about the dungeon. By the way, name of the cell - order of the Black Rose - might have something to do with the shrine. Since such a details tend to be mentioned in this wiki - like the carving of Molag Bal on the Garlas Agea page - Nocturnal's shrine also well deserves to be described. A screenshot probably also would be nice. I'd done it myself, but my computer doesn't save sreenshots for some reason. 109.205.248.107 13:43, 23 April 2011 (UTC)

Nirnroot

3 nirnroot, not 2 — Unsigned comment by 184.45.21.215 (talk) at 00:59 on 17 December 2011

There are only two within the area covered by the map. If you've found a third, can you give some idea of where it is? I suspect it's either outside the bounds of the map, or it was added by a mod. – Robin Hood↝talk 21:00, 12 January 2012 (UTC)