Oblivion talk:Fort Farragut

Circular Wall

on the outer side of the circular wall (on the top floor outside small ledge)to the left of the main entrance a ring(base ring of speed, for me at lvl.37) and 40-50 gold — Unsigned comment by Magelund (talk • contribs)

Thanks for pointing that out. The ring was already listed at Oblivion:Non Random Loot, but it should have been listed on this page too. --Nephele 14:45, 21 December 2006 (EST)

Lucien

I entered this fort without being in the assassin's guild and Lucien was not there. I'd guess he is only there if you enter this fort on the related quest? If so, that should be noted somewhere. --Natpoor 18:13, 23 August 2007 (EDT)

Done. If you want to change it later, go aheadDrake3555 20:14, 21 May 2008 (EDT)

Barrels and chests

Are the barrels and chests in Lucien's quarters safe for storage? Could be cool for Role-play.--LordDagon 11:55, 2 December 2007 (EST)lordDagon

Only the jewelry chest — Unsigned comment by 84.25.23.94 (talk)

Actually the sacks are both safe too, in case you need slightly more space. –Rpeh^{•T•C•E•} 01:23, 14 May 2008 (EDT)

Farragut's Origin's

(Discussion moved to Easter Eggs Talk.) --Robin Hood (Talk • E-mail • Contribs) 22:49, 22 May 2008 (EDT)

Who removed my great edit?

concerning the nature of the fort and the trapdoor way in .86.162.4.198 15:18, 16 December 2008 (EST)

If you want to see why an edit was changed or undone, you should check the page history. You might also want to look over the section on After Your Edit is Saved.

In this particular case, it was undone because the content was not appropriate for a /Description subpage (see Category:Oblivion-Place_Descriptions) for the purpose and content of /Description subpages). Furthermore, the information was already covered in the main article on Fort Farragut (for example, in the notes, in the infobox, and in the details of Zone 1). --Nephele^Talk 15:34, 16 December 2008 (EST)

Commander Farragut

In Jules Verne's classic, 20,000 Leagues Under the Sea, the captain of the Abraham Lincoln is Commander Farragut. Perhaps Fort Farragut is a reference to this literary figure? — Unsigned comment by Alien (talk • contribs) on 4 January 2009

Admiral Farragut was the commander of the Union navy during the American Civil War [1]. Verne's Cdr Farragut was based on him. Farragut is also an area of Washington DC, named after the Admiral, close to Maryland where Bethesda was based. So it's a reference, but not a first-hand one and not particularly notable. –Rpeh^{•T•C•E•} 05:45, 4 January 2009 (EST)

Exterior Map

On the exterior map, is the blue "D" the trap door in? I got too used to the little door marker on the maps so I got lost trying to find it. if I knew how to add the little door, I would. (I'm trying to figure it out) :) --MeBetter87 23:33, 31 March 2009 (EDT)

Yes. I just added a dot to make it more obvious - you may have to clear your browser cache or hard-refresh the page. –Rpeh^{•T•C•E•} 01:05, 1 April 2009 (EDT)

Locked barrel?

How do you lock a barrel? D: I just read the treasure list, and apparently, you get 10 Poisoned Apples from this barrel, but locked with a Very Hard lock? What the hell, lol? Razorflame 03:16, 11 May 2009 (EDT)

Either use the editor Lock spell or use Console Commands to lock them. --Mr. Oblivion 04:13, 11 May 2009 (EDT)

This wasn't meant to ask how to lock a barrel...it was merely a statement....lol :D Razorflame 06:31, 11 May 2009 (EDT)

Where Exactly?

I would like to know where, on the map of Oblivion, is the fort located. — Unsigned comment by 76.90.130.80 (talk) on 9 April 2010

The article already describes the location as "Follow the road from Cheydinhal - East Gate" and has a link just like this one that takes you to our interactive map. rpeh •T•C•E• 10:48, 10 April 2010 (UTC)

New Discovery!

I was searching for the base ring of speed, which I still haven't found. Outside the highest wall there, there is a very thin ledge running around the fort. Inside the corner of the ledge there is a grid-shaped mass of gold coins. I didn't count, but estimate 40 or so. The map marker is right about on top of the base ring's map marker, oddly enough. Somebody look into this?

That's the gold mentioned in the same sentence as the Base Ring of Speed. There's an X-shape of places where there's no gold, and at the center of that X is the ring. It's very easy to miss, or you may have knocked it off accidentally. ‒ Robin Hood↝talk 04:12, 12 June 2010 (UTC)

I added a description of the Fort's interior, so is there any thing else that needs to be added before this article is deemed statisfactory? --Pwnageincarnate 11:37, 22 December 2010 (UTC)Pwnageincarnate

Removed notes

Here are the notes I removed after I incorporated them into my walkthrough :

• There are ten respawning Poisoned Apples in a locked barrel (E on the map) near where you meet Lucien. You can access the barrel at any point in the game, even if you have not joined the Dark Brotherhood.
• Once you open gate C providing access to Lucien Lachance's room, all of the Dark Guardians will die.
• There is a trap door that works as a back door on the other side of the Fort inside a big tree.

--Pwnageincarnate 18:47, 28 December 2010 (UTC)Pwnageincarnate

I'd add them all back. They are important enough to be mentioned outside of the walkthrough. --Rigas Papadopoulos • Talk • Deeds • 18:53, 28 December 2010 (UTC)

Notes are supposed to be only for things useful to know after you've gone through the dudgeon, not important while you're going through the dudgeons. Those kinds of things should be in the walkthrough, which is where I put them.

I mean that they are important enough to be at an easy accesible place, not to have to search the walkthrough to find them. --Rigas Papadopoulos • Talk • Deeds • 19:02, 28 December 2010 (UTC)

The 1st and 3rd notes are probably unique enough to this place that they would belong in a note here. The 2nd belongs more with the quest you would be doing. --Brf 19:04, 28 December 2010 (UTC)

Agreed. Now? --Rigas Papadopoulos • Talk • Deeds • 19:10, 28 December 2010 (UTC)

Look, it's not like people are searching through place pages to find Poisoned Apples. The appropriate page mentions it, the quest page mentions it and so on. While I agree that the secret entrance deserve a note, the other two are less important. --Krusty 19:37, 28 December 2010 (UTC)

(←) Okay I re-added the Note about the secret entrance - then I merged the Note about Human Hearts and deleted one with guesswork:

• The fort contains two rare human hearts: one lying in an open tomb, the other on a plate on a nearby table.
• The open tomb seems to hold what remains of a Black Sacrament, which the heart is a part of.

--Krusty 20:34, 28 December 2010 (UTC)

Dark Guardians?

If you haven't started the quest in which you must go to this fort, will the Dark Guardians attack you? — Unsigned comment by 72.28.203.59 (talk) at 19:49 on February 1, 2011

Yes, they are always aggressive. --DKong27 ^{Talk Cont} 02:00, 2 February 2011 (UTC)

Fallout 3 station

There's a Metro Staion (Like a Tube Train) on Fallout Three called Farragut. Should this be mentioned???? — Unsigned comment by 89.107.3.252 (talk) at 16:17 on 3 April 2011

No. This wiki is only for Elder Scrolls things. If it is an Easter egg, it's still an Easter egg from a different game. Legoless 15:19, 3 April 2011 (UTC)

farragut metro station is a real metro named after a general or whatever sooo yeah thats not relevant — Unsigned comment by 69.19.14.33 (talk) on May 12, 2011

Not only are both places in the games named for the independent real-world location or David Farragut, but Fallout was released 2 years after Oblivion. This means the inclusion of the real station in Fallout had little to do with Fort Farragut in Oblivion. This could in no way be a 2-year-early Fallout reference, seeing as "Farragut" is a real-world reference, not attached to a game. Furthermore, this article is for in-game assistance only, meaning we shouldn't include any real-world references, because they would add useless clutter. - Neural Tempest 05:16, 12 May 2011 (UTC)

dart trap avoided

Inside the forts it is possible to avoid the damage effect of the dart trap.Explaination:when you see a dart trap DON'T run just walk into it but CAREFUL you must do one step every two seconds,when you get just one step near it,will be activated,once it stops throwing darts simply WALK inside DON'T run or it will be activated again. — Unsigned comment by 79.167.138.230 (talk) at 18:52 on 25 August 2011

Thanks for the tip, but in my experience most people just run through the traps and accept the damage. Even if a few tips are provided here, I'll give this method a go one of these days. --Krusty 23:35, 25 August 2011 (UTC)

The section that Krusty linked to specifically says that this method of avoidance shouldn't work in Fort Farragut. Are you sure you were able to utilise it at this specific location? --Legoless 02:15, 26 August 2011 (UTC)

The web page doesn't match a normal location template.

In Zone 1: Fort Farragut, the description and info goes off on a tangent assuming Lucien Lachance is/will be present to wit: "The initial purpose of Fort Farragut was to reach Lucien Lachance at Q..." But following the Wiki guidelines the initial purpose should be the same as any other Fort or ruin. Lachance in the location is an incidental that only comes into play when the Dark Brotherhood quest line is initiated and followed to The Purification quest. Zort??? Wet am I all?Sniffles 10:43, 29 September 2011 (UTC)

Dark Guardians, all dead

Hi there, still kind of new to this game, as well as new to Elder Scrolls as a whole, so I've much to learn, but I didn't see any info about this. The first time I've visited this place, all the Dark Guardians were already dead and could be looted (with nearly 200 iron arrows I must add, great to train Mercantile). However today (a few days after my first visit) I've returned in hopes to have some more easy arrows, but I've found that all the guardians were alive. I did also join the Dark Brotherhood very recently and visited their hideout. I don't know if that has to do with the Dark Guardians being alive or not, but that's the only connection I can make right now. 70.80.30.235 02:29, 12 February 2014 (GMT)

I've figured out how to reproduce this now. All that has to be done is to enter from the trapdoor entrance (as I have done on my first time), and as soon as the lever is pulled, all the Dark Guardians will drop to the ground. This can be clearly seen if a fair amount of Detect Life is active. As the lever is pulled, all the life in the dungeon will disappear. It doesn't seem to matter if the Dark Brotherhood quests are started, I have finished a few and it still works. But I'm not sure if this works if Lucien is around (he isn't there yet in my game). I suppose this is bug, yes? Or do I have to assume Lucien "de-animates" the Guardians by pulling this lever? Anyhow, I'll try again when Lucien is there. I'm playing on the PS3 version, so I don't have the huge bugfix patch that's available on the PC. It might be fixed on there... that would be worth checking out for PC users reading this. In any case, I think it's worth a mention. (Ah, almost forgot to sign after all this thinking.) 70.80.30.235 06:23, 13 February 2014 (GMT)