Morrowind talk:Lirielle's Debt

The first time you speak with gro-Aglakh the journal index becomes 5, however you can only advance to 10 if you manage to speak about "debt money" (the conversation is a bit borked up, you have to ask about Lirielle and then debt money). Percius Mecius will provide additional info when the journal index is 10, not 5. --85.52.74.68 16:00, 2 September 2012 (UTC)

Confirmed. I get waylaid by this obstruction almost every time I play, and have to go back to Vivec to get it right. At least both destinations aren't far from the Guild Guides in the Vivec and Ald'ruhn Mages Guilds.

Oh, Wait! I do get the "debt money" topic with Percius, whereupon he also suggests that the contract may not be legitimate. However, after that conversation Lirrielle still doesn't offer the "debt money" topic, (borked up indeed!), so I still need to go back to Vivec. The programmers obviously didn't use entirely the same variables to trigger this topic with Percius, as with Lirrielle, and the variable values were obviously set by different conversation topics with What's-his-OrcishFace in Vivec, which I was tempted to call sloppy.

However, I suspected what they were intending to do was to allow us to back out of accepting the quest after consulting Percius. To test this idea, I went back to Lorbumal gro-Whatsis, (AKA What's-his-OrcishFace), and scanned his topics to see if there was some other topic to advance the conversation besides "debt money", and discovered, "Rufinus Alleius", a name that I don't remember seeing before; and the next thing I know, I have a whole new quest to do.

Meanwhile, the "debt money" topic is still offered, so I choose that, and He-whose-OrcishName-I-Don't-Remember proceeds to tell me what I already know about where to find Lirrielle, (which isn't nearly as difficult to remember), and updates my stinking journal so that I just might possibly begin to consider whether I may be permitted to start trying to think about the option of wondering whether I can really get on with the quest, and if so I now have 2 of his quests in progress simultaneously.

The problem is that by the time we hear about the debt money quest, we are so conditioned to having no choice about whether to accept a quest or not, that it never occurs to some of us to even consider opting out.

I'll try to find an appropriate way to add relevant details to the article some time when I'm not being so silly. Downstrike (talk) 09:23, 23 March 2013 (GMT)