Lore talk:Hist

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Fighter's Guild quest[edit]

I know there isn't much detail to be found from it, but it seems worth mentioning somewhere in this article. — Unsigned comment by 68.193.111.55 (talk) at 05:44 on 24 December 2007‎

There's detail on the quest in the Oblivion namespace, here. This page is for more general information about Hist. —RpehTCE 07:01, 29 December 2007 (EST)

Confusing...[edit]

Does anyone else think that this page doesn't make much sense? It needs a lot of fixing up, in my opinion. Zander 02:57, 7 October 2008 (EDT)

You're free to do that ofcourse. I've added a Cleanup tag to the article. --Timenn < talk > 03:46, 7 October 2008 (EDT)
If the article does get re-written, it would be a good idea to avoid making it Oblivion-centric. The Hist are mentioned far too often and are far too significant to be regarded as just a provincial hallucinogen. It's just that they were never explored and relegated to the position of second rate mystery whereas the Fighter's Guild provided a little concrete information.Temple-Zero 10:24, 7 October 2008 (EDT)

sap[edit]

i think this page should mention the efects of hist sap — Unsigned comment by Diobern (talkcontribs) at 03:06 on 6 November 2008 (GMT)

Hist Sap effects[edit]

Wouldnt it be a good idea to add a sentence or two mentioning that the effect of the Hist Sap encountered in Oblivion might not be the same as other Hist Sap? Afterall, the Hist Tree in Oblivion is considered a perversion, and may not grant the same effect as un-corrupted Hist Tree Sap. -J'sar 15:18, 31 October 2009 (UTC)

True. Ive heard NPC's say "The Blackwood company were taking bad sap from a sick hist tree. No wonder they fought with such bloodlust" or something to that effect. 184.77.194.254 04:06, 16 July 2010 (UTC)

Fallout 3 Ref.[edit]

The belief that Hist may be living may be a reference to Fallout 3, another game by Beth-Soft. There is an NPC in Fallout 3 named Harold that is a talking tree. It's unlikely, but possible. FlameMaker 01:14, 20 November 2009 (UTC)

Oblivion predates fallout three so thats not very likely. However, Incarnating Harold as a talking tree may be a reference to hist(though, again, not very likely). — Unsigned comment by 71.191.8.5 (talk) at 20:07 on 28 November 2009
Harold is a character that has existed in the Fallout universe for some time (before Oblivion). But the relation from Harold to Hist is a far stretch, considering Bethesda had nothing to do with Fallout prior to Fallout 3. It is probably just coincidental.-Puddle Talk+Contribs. 23:08, 28 November 2009 (UTC)
In Fallout 2 Harold was just wearing his tree as a hat. Well, it was a little sapling growing out of his head. The tree's name was Herbert. Just kidding. His name's Bob!
No, this has absolutely no connection to the Hist whatsoever. Well, it may be marginally possible that whoever warped Harold in Fallout 3 was influenced by the Hist, not the other way around. Harold isn't even technically a ghoul, just a strange sort of mutant. Here's more than you ever wanted to know about Harold. In any case, he was certainly born human. (Not so sure about the origin of Bob.) --Nocturnal 01:27, 3 January 2010 (UTC)

drugs/psychoactives[edit]

id like to see an entire page on the drugs in TES — Unsigned comment by Teotzlcoatl (talkcontribs) at 09:45 on 29 December 2009

What? It would be very short would it not? Skoomaand Hist are the only ones I know... — Unsigned comment by Kylogorath (talkcontribs) at 19:33 on 16 September 2010

3E 433?[edit]

In the article, it says that a recruit from the Fighter's Guild destroyed the hist tree in 3E 433. That may not be true because the player could end up destroying the tree in 3E 434 or later. So, shouldn't that be written defferently to just say in the 3rd Era? I understand it's most likely that someone playing the game would have destroyed it in 3E433, but it might not be. Bryanmichael11 22:49, 29 December 2009 (UTC)

That's a problem with all the in-game events. Depending on the player it may be done in either 433 or 434 (or even later). We can't really determine the right year here, unless there is an official source. --Timenn-<talk> 15:26, 7 January 2010 (UTC)
Can we just say it happened at the end of the third era? It would still be accurate. --Bryanmichael11 20:09, 7 January 2010 (UTC)
That would be fine I think. --Timenn-<talk> 22:35, 12 January 2010 (UTC)
Okay, I'll change it now. --Bryanmichael11 01:07, 13 January 2010 (UTC)

moved from article[edit]

hi! i just moved this from the article because it dosn't seem very likely "Hist Sap may be a reference to Histamine, which is the chemical produced by the body that causes inflammation" any thoughts on this?--GUM!!! 14:11, 13 May 2010 (UTC)

I agree it isn't very likely at all. Hist creates a hallucinogenic effect, not inflammation, so I don't think just the word 'Hist' being in 'Histamine' would be a connection... Kylogorath 19:31, 16 September 2010 (UTC)

moved.[edit]

It is said that all Hist are conected at root, they speek to eachother and to the An-Xileel

confermation anyone?--GUM GUM!!! 22:17, 15 June 2010 (UTC)

Yes, this is true and mentioned in TIC.--Corevette789 22:18, 15 June 2010 (UTC)
ok and whats the tlc?--GUM GUM!!! 22:30, 15 June 2010 (UTC)
The Infernal City.--Corevette789 22:33, 15 June 2010 (UTC)

Other Trees?[edit]

Aside from the Blackwood Compaies' one, can any other Hist Trees be found in Oblivion, grown artificially or in the wilderness? Kylogorath 20:05, 14 September 2010 (UTC)

I'm no expert on the subject, but if you do a site search for Hist, you'll find several references to them...Mere-Glim, for example. Robin Hoodtalk 20:44, 14 September 2010 (UTC)
Thanks Kylogorath 19:29, 16 September 2010 (UTC)

Hist leaves[edit]

Has anyone else noticed that the leaves of the Hist tree seen in TES:IV resemble marijuana leaves? 122.104.203.150 08:28, 11 February 2011 (UTC)

PGE1[edit]

The 1st Pocket Guide seems to treat the hist as if they're just a "relatively intelligent" sub-species of typical Argonians. Whether it's simply a mistake or if hist actually has two meanings, I think the discrepancy should probably be noted on the page. I'm pointing it out here in case I'm missing something or if this has already been considered.Minor Edits 23:24, 14 June 2011 (UTC)

Fighter's Guild: Argonian[edit]

If the player is an argonian in the fighter's guild, the various members also state that it's probably/most likely modified to have similar effects. I just added this myself, but if anyone out there wants to touch it up a little better, then I'd love it, it feels a leetle clunky where it's at now. 65.128.34.200 05:04, 12 April 2012 (UTC)Zsword

Also: Adding that I JUST made an account for this, so, I'll keep in touch. ;) Zsword 05:11, 12 April 2012 (UTC)

Lore from the Books[edit]

Should the lore from the Novels be included here? We get some new information about the Hist and also learn that there is another form of sentient tree that is very similar to the Hist. They might even have been the same thing at one point. The most interesting thing is that we learn a little bit about where these sentient trees come from because they go home at the end of the novel. Shouldn't this information be included on the Hist lore page? — Unsigned comment by NordJitsu (talkcontribs) at 14:55 on 6 December 2012

Yes. Minor EditsThreatsEvidence 16:35, 6 December 2012 (GMT)

ESO ambient dialogue[edit]

Remark by Buxutheeus, an NPC that cannot be interacted with but can be overheard talking to a Nord in Stormhold:

  • Nord: "I didn't know the Hist could die."
  • Bux: "Dead's" not quite right. It's like it's born backwards. When it dies, it turns into an egg... or so they say.

DavidJCobb (talk) 07:08, 1 March 2018 (UTC)

I've added it to the correct page. —Legoless (talk) 12:56, 1 March 2018 (UTC)
Thanks! I got it on video just now and filled it in completely on that page. DavidJCobb (talk) 07:07, 3 March 2018 (UTC)

Baobab tree[edit]

The Hist to me seem reminiscent of the Baobab trees in real life Africa, does anyone else notice this? Is this intended? Am I just crazy? — Unsigned comment by Lessetti (talkcontribs) at 18:40 on 31 March 2018 (UTC)

There are definitely similarities between the Hist trees as seen in ESO and Legends and certain baobab trees; it is likely that they were an inspiration for the Hist trees' appearance. I doubt that this is the right forum for speculation about that, though. —Aran Anumarile Autaracu Alatasel (talk) 19:10, 2 April 2018 (UTC)

Communication with the Hist[edit]

I came across Tribes of Murkmire: Miredancers, and I got to thinking that perhaps this page should include ways that Argonians communicate with the Hist. The case of Sap-Speakers is particularly interesting. The book also tells us that Hist Trees bear fruit, which is usually forbidden to eat unless you're a Sap-Speaker meditating within the Hist's canopy. We also learn from the Miredancers that consuming too much Hist sap is dangerous, even for Argonians, and Sap-Speakers are often subjected to the symptoms of Sap Poisoning because of how much sap they ingest. Should we have a section of the page that talks about stuff like this? I think it would be worthwhile to put down how the Hist is known to communicate, how some different tribes communicate with the tree, religious practices that involve the Hist, etc. MolagBallet (talk) 22:18, 17 January 2019 (UTC)