Lore talk:Blackreach

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Presence Verification[edit]

have never seen giants or wispmothers in blackreach. verfiy please — Unsigned comment by (talk) at 06:35 on 20 August 2012

I have seen both of these in Blackreach. — Kimi the Elf (talk | contribs) 08:50, 20 August 2012 (UTC)
See the Skyrim article. —Legoless 14:01, 20 August 2012 (UTC)


I'm not sure we can claim in the lore that the Dovahkiin fought Vulthuryol. As far as I know, fighting him is not attached to any quest. He seems to be a sort of Easter Egg; it's sort of like assuming the Dovahkiin talked to M'aiq the Liar. Minor Edits (talk) 00:17, 13 September 2012 (GMT)

I certainly wouldn't consider Vulthuryol an Easter egg. There's no contradictory evidence that the Dovahkiin didn't fight him, so it should be standard procedure to assume that he did. Some examples of similar situations include Lore:Aundae Clan, where it is assumed that many of its members were killed, and Lore:Sutch, where it assumes that the Oblivion Gate near Fort Sutch was closed even though it isn't a proper "quest". —Legoless (talk) 12:56, 13 September 2012 (GMT)
The problem is that you have to do something highly unusual to make Vulthuryol appear: Shout at the glowing orange globe. Without being told, there is only a very small chance that anyone would ever do this. That's what marks it as an Easter egg, I think: the fact that the action needed to trigger the events is extremely unlikely in normal play, unlike, say, the closing of an Oblivion Gate, which is more or less a routine (though not compulsory) action. 07:09, 18 October 2012 (GMT)
...And yet we include Eltonbrand in lore, despite the fact that it is an obivous and overly-obscure Easter egg. I find an Oblivion Gate to be a weak argument; in fact, I'd almost call it a supporting analogy, as most of the Gates are completely random. You don't have to be "told" to do something for it to be canon, even if Bethesda is growing increasingly fond of holding the player's hand. —Legoless (talk) 18:32, 18 October 2012 (GMT)