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Alternate Redirects[edit]

I removed a few from this list, and I wanted to point out a couple that might need to be handled manually. Salonia Caelia & Salonia Carvain share first names, and the first is unlikely to be searched by last name, while the second shares her last name with Plautis. If we end up deciding to do all these redirects (I think that's how consensus was looking on the CP), these should probably just have a disambiguation page for the first name. I don't think I noticed any others like this on the list, but the same would apply if I missed any. I didn't remove them from the list, figured I'd post the suggestion before taking any action on this one. ABCface 07:32, 16 August 2012 (UTC)

I don't currently have any kind of duplicate checking involved here, primarily because there's no specific names to use yet. I think that's probably the next step is to add what names we want to create. Then I can check any duplicates and probably we can just handle those ones by hand...no sense in doing extra programming for only one or two cases. For the remainder, most of them should be red links, and of course, the ones that aren't will be the ones we need to look at more closely. Robin Hoodtalk 16:38, 16 August 2012 (UTC)
Yeah, I kind of figured they would need to be done manually, which is why I posted it here rather than simply removing them, as they still would need to be dealt with in some way. Also, I had another idea which I can do myself later if you agree, which would be separating the list into two (or three) sections: one for creating redirects for the first name only, a second for creating redirects for the second name only, and a third for some special cases which may need more than one redirect made. Clearly, it would be easiest for a bot to actually create the vast majority of the redirects, but I think this human method of sorting would help, since I'm guessing the bot won't know whether to use the first or last name (and making a redirect for both names isn't necessary for the majority of these). Of course, someone would want to double-check what's in each section, but I wouldn't mind sorting them the first go-round if you think this would help. I'm assuming it would be your bot doing this if it's done, so what do you think? ABCface 16:43, 16 August 2012 (UTC)
I was actually just going to type in whatever name was appropriate and do it as a link, that way we can see the red links visually. Robin Hoodtalk 16:57, 16 August 2012 (UTC)
Okay, so if I'm understanding right, you were going to choose the appropriate name manually on your own anyway, then? In that case, you're already ahead of me. Ignore me. :P ABCface 17:00, 16 August 2012 (UTC)

() I just posted the updated list with the proposed redirects to create. Now I need additional eyes (Kiz has already been conscripted as one, but extras wouldn't hurt) to go over it and a) see if I missed any obvious ones that should've been removed, and b) make sure all the proposed redirects make sense. I started with first name as the assumed redirect, then just changed the ones that needed it, so I may have inadvertently used the first name incorrectly if I didn't spot it, or not noticed a special case of some kind.

For any cases where we want more than one redirect created, just repeat the info as needed (as I've done with some of the Legates). Robin Hoodtalk 17:28, 16 August 2012 (UTC)

This way is much easier to read through! Okay, here's a few special cases:
  • Malkoran's Shade redirects to Dragon Priests, so that can probably be removed?
  • Morven and Morven Stroud are separate NPCs, needs either a disambig page or a disambig note at the top of each page
  • Vyrthur already exists, but needs the prod removed (from before the CP discussion)
  • Fultheim and Fultheim the Fearless are separate NPCs, needs either disambig page or disambig note at the top of each page
  • Kjeld and Kjeld the Younger are father and son, respectively, dunno if a disambig is necessary but it's an idea
Also, it might help if all the jarls had a redirect with "Jarl <Name>" if they don't already exist. I haven't really looked into which exist or not, but these would include Skald, Siddgeir, Igmund, Idgrod Ravencrone, Laila, Elisif, Balgruuf, Ulfric, Korir, Brina, Dengeir, Thongvor, Sorli, Maven, Vignar, Brunwulf, Kraldar
ABCface 17:49, 16 August 2012 (UTC)
Okay, I've removed all the special cases. For the record, here are the removed ones just so we can follow up on them as needed (including those that ABCface mentioned above).
Current Page Redirect to Create Reason Removed
Adelaisa Vendicci Adelaisa Already exists
Arch-Curate Vyrthur Vyrthur Already exists
Balgruuf the Greater Balgruuf Already exists
Elisif the Fair Elisif Already exists
Erik the Slayer Erik Already exists
Fultheim the Fearless Fultheim Already exists
High King Torygg Torygg Already exists
Idgrod Ravencrone Idgrod Needs disambig page
Idgrod the Younger Idgrod Needs disambig page
Kjeld the Younger Kjeld Already exists
Knight-Paladin Gelebor Gelebor Already exists
Malkoran's Shade Malkoran Already exists
Maven Black-Briar Maven Already exists
Morven Stroud Morven Already exists
Salonia Caelia Salonia Needs disambig page
Salonia Carvain Salonia Needs disambig page
Ulfric Stormcloak Ulfric Already exists
Vigilant Tolan Tolan Already exists
Voice of Namira Namira Does it make sense to create this?
Robin Hoodtalk 19:43, 19 August 2012 (UTC)