Skyrim talk:Heimskr

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Dialogue[edit]

Does anybody else find his mentions of this mysterious "Earth" place rather strange? ComaDivine 06:35, 4 January 2012 (UTC)

Heh, funny how I was about to post the exact same question after overhearing him yell that. Perhaps that's worth a mention on the page?
Mattressexual 06:11, 14 January 2012 (UTC)
I feel like it probably refers to the ground and everything under it, much the way the heavens refer to the sky. It's not the name of the planet, just the term for, you know... ground. They still call tectonic shifts "earthquakes" in Tamriel, after all. — Unsigned comment by 173.69.169.14 (talk) at 22:06 on 24 January 2012
Bit late to this one but many alternate universes in media refer to the land as "the earth", even if their planet has a formal name.-Zydrate[][] 18:22, 7 July 2013 (GMT)

Possible bug? (PC)[edit]

Latest character I started, for some reason Heimskr never actually does his big, rambling speeches any time I am in Whiterun. He just stands there by the statue and doesn't do anything at all. I can still interact with him normally otherwise, it seems. It doesn't seem like the passage of time or being out of the city for a while fixes it.

I realize some would consider this more a blessing than a curse, but interested if others have had the same bug occur.

74.198.150.91 18:12, 14 January 2012 (UTC)

I've had this glitch happen as well. Not sure if it's related, but later I received a Companions quest to rescue him and it was totally glitched. He only went about halfway to the location he was supposed to be held, and to make matters worse, he never actually left the Whiterun cell. I was only able to reach him by clipping through the door with the plate glitch. — Unsigned comment by 69.21.53.22 (talk) at 17:47 on 16 January 2012
Heimskr's Persistence location is WhiterunLocation. There might have been a problem if hanging around his preaching location after the Companions quest started. The preaching scene might have triggered unsuccessfully, bugging him and the quest out for good.--Lmstearn (talk) 11:33, 3 April 2015 (GMT)

I killed him[edit]

is he important in any way? I killed him because he annoyed me — Unsigned comment by 69.246.224.31 (talk) at 04:57 on 1 April 2012 (UTC)

He doesn't appear to have a major part in any quest. Besides the absence of his preaching, you shouldn't notice any major difference. --AKB Talk Cont Mail 04:57, 1 April 2012 (UTC)

Heimskr's quotes[edit]

I don't enjoy listening to his lengthy, nonsense speech but there are 2 things he says that bug me. He says Talos "rule the realm of spirit" and is "lord of the Divines". Does that mean Talos is above all the Eight Divines? I thought Talos would be at the lowest rank since he's not originally god and his contribution to Nirn is much less than the other Divines. Is what Heimskr says true?117.5.241.128 12:59, 8 April 2012 (UTC)

He is pretty much a dedicated stormcloak so he is probably going to say all kinds of things about Talos. RIM 14:10, 8 April 2012 (UTC)
In morrowing the Talos Cult is treated as a dangerous heresy by the Empire. Its likely they hold Talos above all others. — Unsigned comment by 219.89.246.239 (talk) on 13 April 2012
There's no evidence that he is a Stormcloak at all, merely that he still worships Talos. Members of the Legion do as well. — Unsigned comment by 70.191.227.126 (talk) at 18:51 on 21 June 2012
" ...So rise up! Rise up, children of the Empire! Rise up, Stormcloaks!... " It's right there. He's there trying to incite people to terrorist rebellion quite loudly every day (unless you kill him of course), even during Kodlak's funeral. No sense of decency or respect at all.98.150.140.178 07:54, 23 July 2012 (UTC)
I doubt anyone takes him very seriously. He's the town nut. He may be inciting to this and that, but the Jarl of Whiterun sits more firmly on his throne than just about any other ruler in the game (including the Emperor) and can afford to ignore minor nuisances like Heimskr. Besides, Whiterun is Talos-friendly, as is the Jarl. You don't see any Thalmor wandering the streets, do you? 174.6.51.17 15:05, 28 September 2012 (GMT)
According to a lot of the supplementary work, Talos is not only the most powerful god, but also an anchor holding the universe. Of course, think what you will of supplementary work; a lot of it is really strange. 90.196.156.117 01:47, 28 June 2016 (UTC)

im sure i had a quest involving him[edit]

im sure the first time i played the game back when it first came out someone on the stairs to the castle asked me to go into his house to find proof that he was leading secret talos meetings and then you go there, pick up an amulet or something go back and give to the guy [maybe a guard] and then he got taking away. However ive never seen it since and theres no mention of it here. — Unsigned comment by 219.89.246.239 (talk) on 13 April 2012

I suspect you're thinking of Ogmund in Markarth, and the quest Search and Seizure Peterguard 17:57, 14 April 2012 (UTC)

After the Siege of Whiterun[edit]

Recently completed the Siege of Whiterun on my Imperial - obviously sided with the Imperial Legion. After the battle, I was walking through Whiterun and noticed that Heimskr didn't have his tent set up in front of Jorvaskr as he's supposed to. I initially assumed he had died during the battle, but a more thorough inspection revealed him standing behind his now ruined house doing... nothing. Has anyone else encountered this bug? It seems that the primary issue is that his tent never set itself up. Is there a way to remedy it? While I don't exactly love Heimskr, his rant does add a level of immersion to the game, and it'd be nice to have him back. — Unsigned comment by 173.28.219.50 (talk) at 03:25 on 13 May 2012

You might just need to wait for the cell to reset. To do so, leave it and stay out of Whiterun for a few in-game days. I had a similar issue in both Solitude and Whiterun after capturing them for the Stormcloaks - all I had to do is wait for the cell to reset, and everything fixed itself. • JATalk 01:33, 30 May 2012 (UTC)

Heimskr never sleeps?![edit]

After the Battle of Whiterun I decided to check our Heimskr's new schedule. Now, he yells his sermon from 6am to 3am. At 3am, he goes to The Bannered Mare where all he does is drink. Then, at 6am again he yells SOME MORE. Anybody else notice this? 173.69.57.154 06:24, 2 September 2012 (UTC)

After the Battle of Whiterun Heimskr's home remains destroyed and therefore inaccessible, so he no longer has any home to go back to! I've also found that if Heimskr is in the middle of one of his speeches then he won't actually do anything until he's finished, which includes continuation of his speech while waiting (i.e - wherever he is in the speech when you choose to wait is where he'll carry on from when the waiting is concluded); this means you can sit and wait until 4am and he'll keep on preaching till he knows you've heard the whole thing! I'm not sure if this fact is worth mentioning in the article? It means he won't leave just because you wait; if you need rid of him for whatever reason or you want to get him at his home then you need to endure the whole speech or wait somewhere else.
Also on an unrelated note, but the article doesn't currently say what happens to him if the Battle for Whiterun is won by the Empire? Does he continue preaching? I know the Jarl currently tolerates him but that's because he's trying to be neutral to start with, and if the Stormcloaks win then of course Heimskr is thrilled. I haven't actually played through an Imperial victory yet though. -- Haravikk (talk) 12:25, 22 November 2012 (GMT)
I won the Battle for Whiterun for the Imperial Side twice. In both cases the Imperial victory didn't put a dampener on Heimskr's religious fervour in the slightest. According to the article the Unofficial Skyrim Patch fixes this "bug", but I have the USP installed and Heimskr still preaches next to the Talos statue, just as loud and obnoxious as ever. He seems to have misplaced his robes somewhere, though, which might suggest that he had been briefly jailed while I was away from Whiterun. Personally I'm not sure it is a "bug", though - In my opinion Jarl Barlgruf is loyal to the Empire, but just like many other Imperial supporters, is not exactly fond of Thalmor and their doctrines. --Isenmir (talk) 23:55, 25 January 2013 (GMT)

Battle for Whiterun[edit]

In one playthrough of the game, I was taking Whiterun for the Stormcloaks when I saw Heimskr rambling his speeches about Talos. His presence didn't affect the battle, but I would like to know whether this is a glitch or he's just a persistent preacher. ComradeSteven (talk) 06:38, 12 April 2013 (GMT)

Yeah it happened to me, too. I guess since his house is destroyed, he has nowhere to hide so he keeps reambling while people kill each others in front of him and fiery projectiles get catapulted on the town. -- Elakyn (talk) 09:04, 12 April 2013 (GMT)

Has Heimskr been silenced?[edit]

I started a new character with the last patch and Heimskr never preaches. Was he purposely silenced due to many players complaining that his yelling was annoying?--RumblePen (talk) 11:01, 25 June 2013 (GMT)

No, he still shouts. Sounds like a bug. Silence is GoldenBreak the Silence 02:06, 26 June 2013 (GMT)
I'm getting the same thing, across three new characters on two separate accounts. On the PS3 Legendary Edition, it seems that Heimskr never preaches. He stands, very silent, in front of the sculpture of Talos. --DaedalusMachina (talk) 23:49, 20 May 2014 (GMT)

^ Happening to me too, on the PC. He just stands there all day doing and saying nothing. — Unsigned comment by 211.30.37.216 (talk) at 14:44 on 9 June 2014

Trivia concerning Heimskr's name[edit]

"Heimskr" actually means "foolish" in Old Norse and modern Icelandic. Just thought it might be interesting. --91.55.149.11 15:51, 17 September 2013 (GMT)

This has already been added and removed from the page. Only "relevant" etymologies are allowed, and in order to be relevant in this case you must "take the view" that Heimskr is in some way a fool. As POV edits are not allowed on a wiki this etymology cannot be added. Silence is GoldenBreak the Silence 18:02, 17 September 2013 (GMT)

Incorrect Info?[edit]

The article says that Heimsker(sp) will be jailed if you side with the Imperials, however I have multiple saves where I have sided with the Imperials, including one where I've completed every major quest line and DLCs, and he remains outside preaching. Can anyone verify that he is ever thrown in jail? --166.147.104.25 09:19, 17 November 2013 (GMT)

Heimskringla?[edit]

I remember playing Assassin's Creed Revelations a few days ago, and I noticed you could buy a book called Heimskringla or something. I researched on the internet, and apparently it is a Norse book. Since Skyrim shares similarities with Ancient Norse Mythology, not to mention the assumed misconception that arrow in the knee meant marriage in Ancient Nordic. Is the former note meaningful? Or does the rule from the discussion above apply too? MJ The Unrelenting (talk) 20:04, 17 November 2013 (GMT)

Etymologies only apply if coming from words from languages. If his name may come from a book, that could be an Easter Egg, and should be proposed on that talk page instead of here, as it would reference the book. The arrow in the knee misconception doesn't really apply to this conversation at all; but yes, there are multiple Norse references. Vely►t►e 04:19, 18 November 2013 (GMT)

Reference?[edit]

Is this Heimskr guy a reference to the Prophet from Oblivion Knights of the Nine? Because both characters just preach angrily to everyone in a major city. — Unsigned comment by Kinetically-Interlinked Nirnian Multi-User NthGen Exoform (talkcontribs) at 08:38 on 24 May 2016‎

I don't know. I wouldn't have thought so; they just preach and want everybody to hear them. If they had the same speech pattern, it would make it possible that it is a reference. But I haven't played Oblivion in ages. DRAGON GUARD(TALK) 18:32, 24 May 2016 (UTC)
I agree that he is probably not a reference to the Prophet. Outspoken religious characters like the Prophet or Heimskr aren't exactly uncommon in various forms of media so it'd be a stretch to say Heimskr is a reference to the Prophet without additional connections between the two. Forfeit (talk) 21:48, 24 May 2016 (UTC)

False Info[edit]

If you sided with the Imperials, Heimskr will be sent to jail, where he will continue preaching his sermon. Otherwise, he will set up camp atop the retaining wall next to his shrine.

No He will not be sent to jail he will still be there by the shrine even when you side with The Imperials (PrinceRetro (talk) 17:10, 1 October 2018 (UTC))

Those issues are known bugs, and is already noted under the Bugs section of the page. —MortenOSlash (talk) 21:52, 1 October 2018 (UTC)