Skyrim talk:Gisli

Strange Appearances

I'm not sure if it's some weird glitch, but for some reason I keep finding Gisli in shops, standing behind the counter as if she was the merchant there, while the merchant is doing other things. It has happened in Bits & Pieces, and The Radiant Raiment so far. Both times while the shopkeeper is in the building, and still actually selling things. Anyone else had this happen?--Lovless510 18:16, 9 December 2011 (UTC)

All the time. It's confusing. Peterguard 18:06, 16 January 2012 (UTC)

I find her in Radiant Raiment all the time. I play multiple games with different characters who have finished random quests within the game world, and yet this woman is always where she's not supposed to be. There are over five game files in which she is doing the same thing. At first I thought she worked at the shop, but she never has a merchant's inventory. I wonder if its a script error? I have also found Irnskar Ironhand in Radiant Raiment at least once. Weird! Selenameeka 06:44, 3 February 2012 (UTC)

When I was completing the Dainty Sload, I went to see her brother Erikur in his bedroom, and she showed up there at 2 AM on Middas. Minor Edits^{Threats•Evidence} 19:25, 12 August 2012 (UTC)

She and Irnskar are supposed to visit the shop, that's all. NPCs visiting a shop will frequently go behind the counter if the shopkeeper stops to do something else. Idgrod the Younger does the same at Lami's shop in Morthal. Vicano (talk) 11:45, 2 September 2013 (GMT)

Added Fishing Job quest

I added a line indicating that she's the target of a fishing job quest, and the item to be stolen, then I noticed the "Related Quests" section, and uncommented that, but left my earlier edit in as it appears that the RQ section doesn't expect to have the item listed. If that's not right, I'll leave it for someone else to fix, but take note for future reference. Peterguard 18:04, 16 January 2012 (UTC)

Removed Note

"She is a member of the steward faction, and her voice type has dialogue for selling houses and issuing bounties, even though nobody else of her voice type is a steward. This indicates she may have been planned to be a steward once."

This seems like a stretch to me, so I removed it from the page. If anyone disagrees, it can be discussed here. Kitkat^{Talk•Contrib•Email} 12:20, 28 August 2013 (GMT)

How is it a stretch? She is in the steward faction, and there is recorded steward dialogue for her voice type (FemaleCondescending) even though nobody else of her voice type is a steward or is in the faction.

There is also an unfinished quest in which the player would have killed Jarl Elisif, who would've been replaced by Erikur. It seems to me that this is when Gisli would have become steward, given that she is Erikur's sister, and dialogue from Gisli, and a scene between Bryling and Falk indicates that the latter two are at odds with Erikur, which leads me to believe that should he have become Jarl, it's unlikely he'd have let Falk stay on as steward. Vicano (talk) 12:46, 28 August 2013 (GMT)

There are many NPCs who belong to factions that don't make sense that we don't note. Zaria belongs to the housecarl faction and the lumberjack faction, but isn't a housecarl or a lumberjack. And as for the voice quotes, children have voice quotes for fleeing battle and fighting, but never do ingame. --AN|L (talk) 15:29, 28 August 2013 (GMT)

I have had children try to beat me up before, though, so it does happen. Why would Bethesda record dialogue like that they had no intention of using? When viewed as a whole, Erikur's enmity toward Falk, Gisli being in the steward faction (and being an otherwise largely purposeless NPC) and her having recorded dialogue to be a steward, despite no-one else of her voice type even being in the faction, it seems pretty convincing to me that this is why she exists at all. Like Captain Lonely-Gale, he's a rather purposeless character on the surface of it, too.

As for Zaria, the slap-dash way her role as an alchemist seems to have been set up (her house isn't tagged as a shop, for example, and she pretty much just works and sleeps, no visits to the inn, no nothing) makes it seem at least conceivable to me that she could have been planned to be either of these, initially. Especially a housecarl, given Helvard's assassination, and him having no replacement in game (oh, and Zaria's also the "HousecarlBackup" alias in the Falkreath dialogue quest). Vicano (talk) 11:32, 2 September 2013 (GMT)