Skyrim talk:Experimental Subject (A)

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Permanent[edit]

A question, when this says it will cause a permanent health loss, does it actually mean permanent maximum health loss, one time health loss that can be regenerated or the former removed when the spell is removed? Just gotta ask. — Unsigned comment by 92.236.252.26 (talk) at 21:55 on 5 January 2013‎

It's definitely removed when you return to Neloth and the spell is removed. I think I used a healing potion to restore my health before I returned to him, but it's been a while since I did the quest, so that second part may not be right. — ABCface 14:59, 7 January 2013 (GMT)
Just tested this now. Using restoration potions or spells only restores to the reduced maximum. The active effect is permanent "Damage Health", so that makes sense. Returning to Neloth removes the effect and restores the missing 25 points. --Enodoc (talk) 22:28, 14 January 2013 (GMT)
I don't believe that referring to the health loss as "permanent" is appropriate. That implies that your health will NEVER be restored to it's maximum value, which isn't the case. Maybe referring to it as damaged or stunted would be better. — Unsigned comment by 199.218.107.3 (talk) at 14:38 on 21 November 2016‎
While "permanent" in this sense is correct, as Enodoc outlined above, it's unintuitive if you don't understand game mechanics terminology. I've reworded it to make it more clear what is meant. Robin Hood  (talk) 16:37, 21 November 2016 (UTC)

Second Experiment[edit]

There is a 2nd experiment that Neloth performs on you which I have not seen on the Wiki. He says he has a new "silence" spell to test on you. If you agree he casts a spell that makes you blind, but you can still hear Neloth and his assistant discuss your condition. This was some of the funniest dialog in the game so I don't want to spoil it. The affect lasts about a minute and then it wears off (much to the chagrin of Neloth). The reward is a standard misc. quest amount (I think it was 250 for me). (Before you agree to the spell he tells you he may have a version of the spell for you to use in the future. But given the results, I don't think that's actually going to happen). I apologize if I missed this in the Wiki. -- ~FiveCentFather (Ken N.) (talk) 18:44, 26 January 2013 (GMT)

Technically, the ID is there, but the rest of the info isn't. I have a question though, did you complete the quest described on the page at all and then complete this quest? Or did you complete this quest INSTEAD of the other one? Jeancey (talk) 19:12, 26 January 2013 (GMT)
I completed the quest on this page first. The "silence" quest was after I had completed all the other quests for Neloth listed on his page, the last being Wind and Sand. The dialog prompt "Can I help you with your research?" reappeared and this was the result. Now that I have completed the quest, that prompt no longer appears. Thinking about it, he mentioned that his tower was now "restored" (due to my earlier completing the Healing the House quest) just before he offered this quest. He said now that the house was restored, he could work on some more advanced magical experiments. Maybe that event triggered this quest. -- ~FiveCentFather (Ken N.) (talk) 19:39, 26 January 2013 (GMT)
I got this second experiment but had to stop playing so I quit withoug saving before I got to hear the whole thing play out. I reloaded my save game (from before getting quest, hell from before even entering Tel Mithryn again) and I could not get it again, although Neloth and Talvis were giving me comments as if I had done it on this save. What's even more frustrating is I brought a new character to Solstheim for the first time and did every single Tel Mithryn quest, but never recieved this one. And even with this character I hear about my tenticle eyes that never happened. I wish someone would put up a transcript of the dialogue if it's in the PC files.--RumblePen (talk) 06:43, 4 May 2013 (GMT)

Split[edit]

While it won't leave a lot on the page, I think a split makes sense here. This isn't a single related quest, it's two entirely separate quests that happen in sequence. Robin Hood  (talk) 17:33, 25 August 2013 (GMT)

Yeah, I didn't have time when adding the tag to post here, but I know that it was originally merged only because Dragonborn had just come out and we didn't have much information on it at the time. I'm surprised it's taken this long to address the issue, but until it was brought up in IRC recently (thanks Dunehelm!) I hadn't paid much attention to it. The section above gives some justification to splitting the pages, as does the fact that the prerequisites are different, as noted on the Tel Mithryn page. I think giving this a week to see what others think on the matter should be sufficient, then we can act accordingly from there. — ABCface 04:11, 26 August 2013 (GMT)
Makes sense to me. How do you think we should name them? Just (a) and (b), or something more? --Enodoc (talk) 14:44, 27 August 2013 (GMT)
Yeah, that's what I was thinking. For the "Elmus Favor Quest" ones, we used (mead) and (berries) because it easily summed up the differences without really "spoiling" anything. In this case, I think trying to do that wouldn't really be helpful or appropriate, given the nature of the quests. So doing like we did with "Animal Extermination" (A) and (B) is probably best. — ABCface 22:18, 27 August 2013 (GMT)
Okay, it's been over a week and there have been no objections, so I'm going to get to work on splitting it. Robin Hood  (talk) 20:05, 31 August 2013 (GMT)

() Your Welcome. Dunehelm (talk) 05:34, 11 February 2014 (GMT)