Shivering:Through the Fringe of Madness

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Get past the Gates of Madness.
Quest Giver: Haskill in The Fringe
Location(s): The Fringe
Prerequisite Quest: A Door in Niben Bay
Next Quest: A Better Mousetrap
Reward: Blessing of Mania or Blessing of Dementia, Keys to Mania/Dementia, Charity of Madness
ID: SE02
 
Can you avoid their fate?

Quick Walkthrough[edit]

  1. Make your way towards Passwall.
  2. Speak with the citizens about the Gatekeeper and choose a method of disposal.
    • Optional: Help Jayred Ice-Veins create some highly effective arrows.
    • Optional: Eavesdrop on Relmyna Verenim and collect some samples of her tears to poison your foe.
  3. Kill the Gatekeeper.
  4. Receive the keys to Mania and Dementia and enter the Gates of Madness.

Detailed Walkthrough[edit]

The Gatekeeper[edit]

After first entering the Fringe, travel along the meandering main path until you reach the small town of Passwall. You'll quickly encounter two residents discussing the imminent fate of a band of adventurers that just passed through. Speak with the Redguard, the self proclaimed mayor of Passwall Shelden, to learn of the nature of the Fringe and, more importantly, about the Gatekeeper found northeast of Passwall.

Traveling in that direction, you will arrive at the Gates of Madness: the passageway to the Shivering Isles proper. The Gates consist of two doors, the left leading to Mania, the right to Dementia, both of which are guarded by the Gatekeeper of the Fringe. Already underway is a severely one sided battle between the Gatekeeper and the group of steel plate armored adventurers you heard about in town, complete with cheering onlookers Shelden and Felas Sarandas . The adventurers are no match for the massive abomination, and they will all perish in their futile attack. After all the adventurers have been slain, their captain will flee the Isles, exiting through the Door to the Heartlands.

A subsequent quest update will suggest speaking to the residents of Passwall about the Gatekeeper. By questioning Passwall's citizens, you will discover that the keys to the Gates are sewn into the Gatekeeper's body and killing it is therefore the only option to enter the Isles.

Prepare for Battle[edit]

There are multiple methods of defeating the Gatekeeper. The most straightforward is simply to fight it as-is. The Gatekeeper is leveled, possesses a large pool of hit points and is capable of healing itself. Fortunately, there are ways to turn the fight in your favor.

Gatekeeper Arrows[edit]

The gatekeeper remains needed to make arrows

Some residents of Passwall may inform you of Jayred Ice-Veins, a bone-obsessed Nord sharpshooter with a burning desire to kill the Gatekeeper and enter the Isles. Speak with Jayred, who will reveal that bones taken from the corpse of a slain Gatekeeper can be fletched into arrows that are particularly effective against his brother:

"They say the Gatekeeper's magical. I don't believe in magic. But I do believe in bones, and the best way to kill something is with the bones of its own. I can see the bones of a dead Gatekeeper in the courtyard of the Gardens. The door's locked, though. You'll pick that lock, and I'll collect the bones. Then I'll make some arrows, and we'll kill the Gatekeeper. Sound good?"

The Gardens Jayred mentioned in which the remains of the previous Gatekeeper can be found are in fact the Gardens of Flesh and Bone, located at the top of the hill west of Passwall. He will give you a single free lockpick and then head straight for the Gardens. Follow him to the gate and pick the lock, which is always of very easy difficulty. Inside the courtyard, defeat the three skeletal shambles that guard the courtyard however you see fit, but beware the frosty explosions that occur upon their death. Jayred will collect the bones from the remains of the dead gatekeeper and tell you to return in a few hours for the arrows. Return to him two hours later and he will have 20 Gatekeeper Bone Arrows ready for you. You can also ask him to follow you around the Fringe at this point, and he will do so until either he or the Gatekeeper are put down.

Relmyna's Tears[edit]

Relmyna's midnight encounters

Locate Nanette Don somewhere in Passwall and bump her disposition to 70 or higher before asking about the Gatekeeper; she will hesitantly reveal a serious flaw in the Gatekeeper that you may be able to exploit:

"I've been dying to tell someone. You seem trustworthy enough... but don't tell Relmyna I said anything! Her Gatekeeper is flawed! Her tears hurt him!"

If you push the subject, she will further elaborate by explaining what exactly the tears do, and more importantly, providing you with an opportunity to collect them:

"Her tears somehow agitate the daedra bound to the Gatekeeper's body. Her tears make it really restless. It strains harder against the warding magic. She may seem like a tough woman, but the Gatekeeper makes her all weepy. Go see for yourself. She visits him every night, around midnight."

If you doubt the air-headed Nanette Don, searching Relmyna's room at the Wastrel's Purse will reveal a love letter to Lord Sheogorath on her desk that confirms Nanette's claims. Wait until midnight and travel surreptitiously to the Gates of Madness. Take care not to be noticed by either party, as Relmyna will leave and the Gatekeeper will try to kill you. If you remain undetected throughout the meeting, you will receive a quest update informing you that Relmyna has dropped a handkerchief. Pick up the handkerchief and you will be granted three bottles of the poison 'Relmyna's Tears.'

Madness...? This. Is. Passwall![edit]

Now armed with the appropriate weapons, travel to the Gates of Madness and engage the Gatekeeper. If Jayred is accompanying you, he will attack the Gatekeeper with his own set of Gatekeeper Arrows, and may well be slain in the fight. If you have acquired both the 'Gatekeeper Arrows' and 'Relmyna's Tears', poisoning your bow of choice with the tears is a very effective method. After the Gatekeeper has been defeated, claim the "Key to Mania" and the "Key to Dementia" from his corpse. As soon as you collect your spoils, Haskill will appear and offer some more general guidance relating to the Isles, including information on Mania and Dementia; the two sides of madness that form the realm:

"So, you've managed to kill the Gatekeeper. Pity. Well, you'll now be able to enter the Realm proper. You'll notice there are two doors. One leads to the lands of Mania. The other to Dementia. Enter through either one. The lands are quite distinct, but both are Sheogorath's domain. You'll want to seek out Lord Sheogorath. I believe He has plans for you. Try not to disappoint Him."

Of course, if you'd like more information on the realms of the Isles, Haskill will grudgingly humor you. When asked for more detail on the lands of Mania, he tells you that:

"The lands of Mania are bright, vibrant, and full of color. You'll find its inhabitants reflect the land itself. If you wish to meet the residents of Mania, you'll find them in the settlements of Hale and Highcross. Take care, though. Though the citizens and creatures of Mania are colorful, they can often be quite deadly. I'm sure you can handle it, though."

His description of the realm of Dementia is of similar use:

"The lands of Dementia reflect the darker side of its residents. It is easy to get lost among the tangle of roots growing out of the ground. If you wish to meet Dementia's citizens, seek them out in Deepwallow or Fellmoor. I'm sure they'll welcome one such as you with open arms."
You've made it into the Isles. Good job.

You are then given a choice of which Gate you wish to enter the Isles proper through. If you choose to enter via the door to Mania, you will be granted the Blessing of Mania: a Frenzy Greater Power. If you choose instead to enter through the door to Dementia, you will be granted the Blessing of Dementia: a Demoralize Greater Power. Either way, once you are on the other side of the Gates of Madness, your journal will update and instruct you to seek out Lord Sheogorath in the capital city of New Sheoth on the other side of the main island; a journey you must make on foot. There are two routes available to you, though neither one is necessarily better: to the north lies Overlook Road which winds through the vibrant lands of Mania and eventually leads to the gates of New Sheoth's Bliss district, while to the south, The Low Road traverses the swamps and bogs of Dementia and ends at the gates of the Crucible district. Once in the capital, make your way to Sheogorath's Palace and speak with the Prince of Madness Himself to complete the quest and receive some small, but telling, insight into his personality:

"A new arrival! A shame about my Gatekeeper. I'm so happy, I could just tear out your intestines and strangle you with them. I suppose an introduction is in order. I'm Sheogorath, Prince of Madness. And other things. I'm not talking about them. You've probably figured that out by now. Let's hope so. Or we're in real trouble... and out come the intestines. And I skip rope with them! But, perhaps now's not the time. You've made it this far. Farther than anyone else. Well done! Take this trinket of mine. Perhaps it will serve you well. Or look lovely on your corpse."

With that, you are awarded the Charity of Madness, an amulet with a leveled Resist Frost, Shock and Fire enchantment as well as the Key to Mania or the Key to Dementia if you only collected one from the corpse of the Gatekeeper. This same conversation will begin the next quest as well.

Tips[edit]

  • The Gatekeeper will abandon his attack if you enter any buildings or if you stray too far from the Gates. You can use this to gain a brief respite to heal, recharge weapons and restore your fatigue.
  • Relmyna's Tears is a scripted effect, which will simply remove the Gatekeeper's resistances and regeneration. Therefore, casting Weakness to Poison is pointless. The following abilities are removed: Resist Magic, Resist Paralysis, Restore Health, magnitude depends on level. Since the effect is applied for 120 seconds, you only need to apply the poison once, using any weapon.
  • Since the Demoralize effect completely ignores any Resistance to Magic below 100, it can be used on the Gatekeeper to prevent him from attacking.
  • If you want to get free bone arrows, follow Jayred Ice-Veins back to his house after he has collected the Gatekeepers bones and pick up the bone arrows he shoots in his house when he practices. He will shoot around 10 bone arrows each time and then pick them back up. Retrieving them yourself will not count as stealing.

Notes[edit]

  • Despite their best efforts, it is impossible for the band of adventurers to kill the Gatekeeper, as they cannot do any damage.
  • If you chose to kill the Gatekeeper without doing any other part of the quest, Jayred Ice-Veins will first tell you that you have slain the Gatekeeper, then talking to him a second time will result in him introducing himself.
  • Upon successfully completing the quest, a replica of a helmeted Gatekeeper head, as later seen during Rebuilding the Gatekeeper, will appear on one of the trophy pedestals in Sheogorath's Palace.
  • Xbox360.png An achievement will be unlocked after speaking to Sheogorath for the first time.

Bugs[edit]

  • Leaving the Shivering Isles before the adventurers fight the Gatekeeper, leveling up and then returning may trigger a bug where the Gatekeeper is not hostile and the adventurers just stand around (if talked to they will give the "I HAVE NO GREETING" response) so the quest does not update.
    • PC Only This bug is fixed by the Unofficial Shivering Isles Patch.
    • You can get around this by opening the Wait dialog and waiting for an hour, or resting at the Wastrel's Purse. The adventurers will drop dead and the quest will update. Alternatively you can attack and kill the adventurers yourself, this will cause their leader to flee and the game to move on.
    • Pc22.png You can use the console to fix this: open the command console, click on the Orc adventurer captain, and type the following exactly:
set GatekeeperRef to 0
set startFightDoOnce to 0
set fightStage to 0
Close the console and the battle should proceed normally, although the captain won't join in.

After collecting the Gatekeeper Bone Arrows, if you leave through Door To Cyrodyll and have a horse outside Jayred will not be able to come back in beacuse the horse blocks the way.

Journal Entries[edit]

Through the Fringe of Madness (SE02)
Stage Finishes Quest Journal Entry
0
5 I have entered the Shivering Isles. In order to find the lord of this Realm, I must first pass through the Gates of Madness.
7 The Gates of Madness are locked. Haskill mentioned that the Gates were guarded by the Gatekeeper. He must have the keys.
10 The formidable Gatekeeper has destroyed a party of adventurers. I should talk to the residents of Passwall before trying to deal with this creature.
20 (One of these six options will appear depending on the state of Jayred's mini-quest for the Gatekeeper Bone Arrows)

I should talk to the sorceress Relmyna Verenim about the Gatekeeper. Jayred is still willing to come fight the Gatekeeper with me. or
I should talk to the sorceress Relmyna Verenim about the Gatekeeper. I can also find Jayred to get the arrows made from dead Gatekeeper bones, once he is done making them. or
I should talk to the sorceress Relmyna Verenim about the Gatekeeper. I can also follow Jayred to the Gardens of Flesh and Bone. or
I should talk to the sorceress Relmyna Verenim about the Gatekeeper. I can also tell Jayred I'm ready to go to the Gardens of Flesh and Bone. or
I should talk to the sorceress Relmyna Verenim about the Gatekeeper. I can also talk to Jayred about killing the Gatekeeper. or

I should talk to the sorceress Relmyna Verenim about the Gatekeeper.
21 (One of these six options will appear depending on the state of the mini-quest for Relmyna's Tears)

I should talk to Jayred about killing the Gatekeeper. or
I should talk to Jayred about killing the Gatekeeper. I can also talk to Relmyna to learn more about the Gatekeeper. or
I should talk to Jayred about killing the Gatekeeper. I can also see if Nanette has anything interesting to say about the Gatekeeper. or
I should talk to Jayred about killing the Gatekeeper. I can also find Relmyna at midnight, and spy on her visit with the Gatekeeper. or
I should talk to Jayred about killing the Gatekeeper. I can also get that handkerchief with Relmyna's tears. or

I should talk to Jayred about killing the Gatekeeper. I can also use Relmyna's Tears to harm the Gatekeeper.
25 (One of these six options will appear depending on the state of Jayred's mini-quest for the Gatekeeper Bone Arrows)

I should see if Nanette has anything interesting to say about the Gatekeeper. or
I should see if Nanette has anything interesting to say about the Gatekeeper. I can also talk to Jayred about killing the Gatekeeper. or
I should see if Nanette has anything interesting to say about the Gatekeeper. I can also tell Jayred I'm ready to go to the Gardens of Flesh and Bone. or
I should see if Nanette has anything interesting to say about the Gatekeeper. I can also follow Jayred to the Gardens of Flesh and Bone. or
I should see if Nanette has anything interesting to say about the Gatekeeper. I can also find Jayred to get the arrows made from dead Gatekeeper bones, once he is done making them. or
I should see if Nanette has anything interesting to say about the Gatekeeper. Jayred is willing to come fight the Gatekeeper with me. or

I should see if Nanette has anything interesting to say about the Gatekeeper. Jayred is willing to come fight the Gatekeeper with me.
30 (One of these six options will appear depending on the state of Jayred's mini-quest for the Gatekeeper Bone Arrows)

I should find Relmyna at midnight, and spy on her visit with the Gatekeeper. or
I should find Relmyna at midnight, and spy on her visit with the Gatekeeper. I can also talk to Jayred about killing the Gatekeeper. or
I should find Relmyna at midnight, and spy on her visit with the Gatekeeper. I can also tell Jayred I'm ready to go to the Gardens of Flesh and Bone. or
I should find Relmyna at midnight, and spy on her visit with the Gatekeeper. I can also follow Jayred to the Gardens of Flesh and Bone. or
I should find Relmyna at midnight, and spy on her visit with the Gatekeeper. I can also find Jayred to get the arrows made from dead Gatekeeper bones, once he is done making them. or

I should find Relmyna at midnight, and spy on her visit with the Gatekeeper. Jayred is willing to come fight the Gatekeeper with me.
50 (One of these six options will appear depending on the state of the mini-quest for Relmyna's Tears)

Jayred thinks he can make arrows that will harm the Gatekeeper from bones found in the Gardens of Flesh and Bone courtyard. I should speak with Jayred when I'm ready to go. or
Jayred thinks he can make arrows that will harm the Gatekeeper from bones found in the Gardens of Flesh and Bone courtyard. I should speak with Jayred when I'm ready to go. I can also talk to Relmyna to learn more about the Gatekeeper. or
Jayred thinks he can make arrows that will harm the Gatekeeper from bones found in the Gardens of Flesh and Bone courtyard. I should speak with Jayred when I'm ready to go. I can also see if Nanette has anything interesting to say about the Gatekeeper. or
Jayred thinks he can make arrows that will harm the Gatekeeper from bones found in the Gardens of Flesh and Bone courtyard. I should speak with Jayred when I'm ready to go. I can also find Relmyna at midnight, and spy on her visit with the Gatekeeper. or
Jayred thinks he can make arrows that will harm the Gatekeeper from bones found in the Gardens of Flesh and Bone courtyard. I should speak with Jayred when I'm ready to go. I can also get that handkerchief with Relmyna's tears. or

Jayred thinks he can make arrows that will harm the Gatekeeper from bones found in the Gardens of Flesh and Bone courtyard. I should speak with Jayred when I'm ready to go. I can also use Relmyna's Tears to harm the Gatekeeper.
60 (One of these six options will appear depending on the state of the mini-quest for Relmyna's Tears)

I should follow Jayred to the "Gardens of Flesh and Bone." or
I should follow Jayred to the "Gardens of Flesh and Bone." I can also talk to Relmyna to learn more about the Gatekeeper. or
I should follow Jayred to the "Gardens of Flesh and Bone." I can also see if Nanette has anything interesting to say about the Gatekeeper. or
I should follow Jayred to the "Gardens of Flesh and Bone." I can also find Relmyna at midnight, and spy on her visit with the Gatekeeper. or
I should follow Jayred to the "Gardens of Flesh and Bone." I can also get that handkerchief with Relmyna's tears. or

I should follow Jayred to the "Gardens of Flesh and Bone." I can also use Relmyna's Tears to harm the Gatekeeper.
70 (Stage means Jayred has found the bones)
80 (One of these six options will appear depending on the state of the mini-quest for Relmyna's Tears)

Jayred has collected bone fragments from a skeleton of what appears to be another Gatekeeper. I should see Jayred in a few hours retrieve the arrows made from these fragments. or
Jayred has collected bone fragments from a skeleton of what appears to be another Gatekeeper. I should see Jayred in a few hours retrieve the arrows made from these fragments. I can also talk to Relmyna to learn more about the Gatekeeper. or
Jayred has collected bone fragments from a skeleton of what appears to be another Gatekeeper. I should see Jayred in a few hours retrieve the arrows made from these fragments. I can also see if Nanette has anything interesting to say about the Gatekeeper. or
Jayred has collected bone fragments from a skeleton of what appears to be another Gatekeeper. I should see Jayred in a few hours retrieve the arrows made from these fragments. I can also find Relmyna at midnight, and spy on her visit with the Gatekeeper. or
Jayred has collected bone fragments from a skeleton of what appears to be another Gatekeeper. I should see Jayred in a few hours retrieve the arrows made from these fragments. I can also get that handkerchief with Relmyna's tears. or

Jayred has collected bone fragments from a skeleton of what appears to be another Gatekeeper. I should see Jayred in a few hours retrieve the arrows made from these fragments. I can also use Relmyna's Tears to harm the Gatekeeper.
90 (One of these six options will appear depending on the state of the mini-quest for Relmyna's Tears)

Jayred has finished the arrows and is willing to come fight the Gatekeeper with me. or
Jayred has finished the arrows and is willing to come fight the Gatekeeper with me. I can also talk to Relmyna to learn more about the Gatekeeper. or
Jayred has finished the arrows and is willing to come fight the Gatekeeper with me. I can also see if Nanette has anything interesting to say about the Gatekeeper. or
Jayred has finished the arrows and is willing to come fight the Gatekeeper with me. I can also find Relmyna at midnight, and spy on her visit with the Gatekeeper. or
Jayred has finished the arrows and is willing to come fight the Gatekeeper with me. I can also get that handkerchief with Relmyna's tears. or

Jayred has finished the arrows and is willing to come fight the Gatekeeper with me. I can also use Relmyna's Tears to harm the Gatekeeper.
130 (One of these six options will appear depending on the state of Jayred's mini-quest for the Gatekeeper Bone Arrows)

The sorceress has dropped a handkerchief full of her tears, which apparently can hurt the Gatekeeper. I should get that handkerchief. or
The sorceress has dropped a handkerchief full of her tears, which apparently can hurt the Gatekeeper. I should get that handkerchief. I can also talk to Jayred about killing the Gatekeeper. or
The sorceress has dropped a handkerchief full of her tears, which apparently can hurt the Gatekeeper. I should get that handkerchief. I can also tell Jayred I'm ready to go to the Gardens of Flesh and Bone. or
The sorceress has dropped a handkerchief full of her tears, which apparently can hurt the Gatekeeper. I should get that handkerchief. I can also follow Jayred to the Gardens of Flesh and Bone. or
The sorceress has dropped a handkerchief full of her tears, which apparently can hurt the Gatekeeper. I should get that handkerchief. I can also find Jayred to get the arrows made from dead Gatekeeper bones, once he is done making them. or

The sorceress has dropped a handkerchief full of her tears, which apparently can hurt the Gatekeeper. I should get that handkerchief. Jayred is still willing to come fight the Gatekeeper with me.
140 (One of these six options will appear depending on the state of Jayred's mini-quest for the Gatekeeper Bone Arrows)

I've squeezed the handkerchief full of the Sorceress' tears into a bottle. This may act as a poison to the Gatekeeper. I have a limited number of doses, so I will need to be careful using them. or
I've squeezed the handkerchief full of the Sorceress' tears into a bottle. This may act as a poison to the Gatekeeper. I have a limited number of doses, so I will need to be careful using them. I can also talk to Jayred about killing the Gatekeeper. or
I've squeezed the handkerchief full of the Sorceress' tears into a bottle. This may act as a poison to the Gatekeeper. I have a limited number of doses, so I will need to be careful using them.. I can also tell Jayred I'm ready to go to the Gardens of Flesh and Bone. or
I've squeezed the handkerchief full of the Sorceress' tears into a bottle. This may act as a poison to the Gatekeeper. I have a limited number of doses, so I will need to be careful using them. I can also follow Jayred to the Gardens of Flesh and Bone. or
I've squeezed the handkerchief full of the Sorceress' tears into a bottle. This may act as a poison to the Gatekeeper. I have a limited number of doses, so I will need to be careful using them. I can also find Jayred to get the arrows made from dead Gatekeeper bones, once he is done making them. or

I've squeezed the handkerchief full of the Sorceress' tears into a bottle. This may act as a poison to the Gatekeeper. I have a limited number of doses, so I will need to be careful using them. Jayred is still willing to come fight the Gatekeeper with me.
150 The Gatekeeper is dead. I should retrieve the keys to the Gates of Madness from the Gatekeeper's corpse.
160 I have the Key to Mania and can enter through the Gates of Madness.
161 I have the Key to Dementia and can enter through the Gates of Madness.
162 I have both the Key to Mania and the Key to Dementia. I can go through either door of the Gates of Madness.
190 I've entered the Shivering Isles. I should seek out Sheogorath.
200 Finishes quest
Notes
  • Not all Journal Entries may appear in your journal; which entries appear and which entries do not depends on the manner in which the quest is done.
  • Stages are not always in order of progress. This is usually the case with quests that have multiple possible outcomes or quests where certain tasks may be done in random order.
  • If an entry is marked as "Finishes Quest" it means the quest disappears from the Active Quest list, but you may still receive new entries for that quest.
  • Pc22.png It is possible to use the console to advance through the quest by entering setstage SE02 stage, where stage is the number of the stage you wish to complete. It is not possible to un-complete (i.e. go back) quest stages. See SetStage for more information.
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